KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunch https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/t170150 Runboard| KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunch en-us Tue, 19 Mar 2024 02:58:22 +0000 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 02:58:22 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070137,from=rss#post2070137https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070137,from=rss#post2070137I will start Shopping King Louis whenever you want to and any and all that follow So , first Monday in October it is unless I hear something different . Hope you feel better soon - the flu has made an early appearance this year !nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:44:10 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070136,from=rss#post2070136https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070136,from=rss#post2070136Wow, you brought up a couple points that escaped me. One was how Jongnam had become a dominant person in the Chang household. She had, but I hadn't noticed. Also, that one character who truly has been an incredible person all around who deserved her own happiness was Jaeok. It was nice to envision her possibly becoming a wife and having that kind of life for herselt. How about we start Shopping King Louie The first Monday in October? Is that too soon? Or, if there is another you'd rather watch, I'm game. I don't care how long it takes to watch a show. It's nice to post when you have time to watch and do so. Sometimes I'm not around. Just returned from WA again. Baby was sick.. They all were sick and needed help. I came back Tuesday and by yesterday I also was sick. Guess I brought it home w/me. Anyway, let me know when you can start another. I am retired so I will work around your schedule. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:26:43 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070134,from=rss#post2070134https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070134,from=rss#post2070134This is rather embarrassing but I want to tell you why it took so long for me to get back into the den . I watched 170 and got busy , distracted and never got back here to post . It is ridiculous how fast this month has gone . I also realized to day that I have not yet turned over my wall calendar from August . I guess September is about to become my "lost month ". 170 Just as Sukhyun and Jongnam are about to leave on their honeymoon trip , she goes into labor and their beautiful daughter is born . We fast forward to two years later ,and we find that everything has settled down in the Chang family . Their relationships has calmed down and it appears that there is no longer undue jealousy about anything . I am surprised to see that Jaeman and Nara have settled back into a marriage , and it seems to be peaceful . Sukhyun and Jongnam and their child all live with them and I think that is fair to say that Jongnam has become a dominant person in the household . At the Jaedo Changs , Kiwoong's business seems to be successful and expanding and it seems to have the whole family working as part of it . Minsook and her kimchi , Gram and her soy sauce , and it looks as if Haien works there too . I wonder why the writers didn't see fit to give Kiwoong and Haein a child yet . Kiwoong and Sukhyun have an easy , brotherly relationship and it is nice to see . I was glad to see that GyunDoo and You Jing were included in the family group and was just as glad to see that Okdoo and her creepy ex WERE NOT . The co workers from Well Being were on hand and it was hinted that Cider Park and Go Rilla were a couple . LOL . I guess that Jaeok is contemplating marriage to the unseen Mr Han - and while it feels that it is all a little bit too neatly tied up , no one deserves happiness more than this character . It is hard to say goodbye to this story once again - believe it to not . I want to thank Nelly for taking this journey and for her patience with me . I look forward to any and all future shows and if it is an hourly can watch up to 2 eps a week . I m ready when you are !! nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:34:14 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070132,from=rss#post2070132https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070132,from=rss#post2070132169 was a very touching episode. Did want to mention how relaxed and happy Jongnam and Nara are with each other. Like mother and daughter. Jongnam going out the door and giving Nara laundry to do for her. lol Never thought I'd see that!! Funny how Nara had to be such a miserable "B" throughout this drama and once she let all that hate and control go, she is so happy now. She loves her daughter in law and shockingly loves her in-laws as well. Her and Minsook are buddies! OK... LAST EPISODE Cried practically thru the entire episode. Guess it ending was a bit emotional for me. Everyone in the Chang family, and those connected to them all ended happily. Okdoo and her creep got all their money back they've been paying to Byundoo over the last couple years so now they'll move out on their own. Nara... WHERE'S NARA. lol Some kind of metamorphosis and she's now a loving fun mom, aunt, granny, mother in law, sister in law.... yikes! The family exhibition was a sweet idea from Haein. And I had forgotten. Haein never got pregnant during the show. For some reason I thought she got pregnant in the end. Guess not. BEST was Granny FINALLY openly recognizing what an incredible human being that Minsook is. Loved that! I'm gonna say (one again) one really disappointing thing.... Bitna is such a baby and that the producers, directors (or whomever!!!) having Jongnam hit that baby. How is that OK? Didn't set well with me before and it still doesn't. So irritating because I do not believe Jongnam's character would do that anyway. They shouldn't have done that. Nara scolding Jongnam about spanking Bitna... And I said... "YOU TELL HER NARA". What? I said that out loud? Siding with Nara? lol Hope I do another watch before I die. Maybe in a couple years I'll do this again. And, I wanted to say I seriously enjoyed wallowing thru this at a snails pace. Let me hang on to it for a VERY long time. One more thing... the other day on one of Korea's entertainment shows they were doing a countdown of the Korean celeb with the most beautiful body. Some were Kpop stars and some were actresses. When they got to #1 they had chosen Kim Ah Joong. I almost fell over. But out of surprised joy. I never ever hear about her anymore, or of Go Joo Won. So for them to say her name and show her picture... I was thrilled!! She was NUMBER ONE (uh, in best body anyway)... Thank you Addie/Janet. I wish more had joined us but I am so happy and thankful that you watched with me. When you are ready to watch Shopping King Louie let me know. I'll be ready and we can take our time since it's only 16 episodes.. Note: Did you see "I Can Hear Your Voice" or "Moonlight Drawn By the Clouds"? Both are very good so if you want to watch either at a later time lets do it. Who knows, someone may be lurking and want to join in. Goodbye for now Bizarre Bunch.... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:02:45 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070131,from=rss#post2070131https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070131,from=rss#post2070131I just finished watching 169 and I have to admit I got that warm fuzzy feeling all over again . We are ahead a few months and Jongnam is greatly pregnant . Sukhyun seems to have totally recovered and they are both back  working at Well Being . Minsook , as well , appears totally recovered . Kiwoong has started his diet lunchbox business and it seems to be thriving . We are not given the details of how it has begun , but Kiwoong has done it on his own . Not only did he turn down ByunDoo's investment , but also Nara . Speaking of Nara , she seems to be greatly changed . She is living harmoniously with her husband , son and str in law . Not only that , she drops over to see Minsook and gram to ask their advise about something , and all the jealousy and attitude seems to be gone . What's more , she has me believing it ! Nara wanted to put on a wedding for Sukhyun and Jongnam . Since they are already married , they didn't seem to want it at first . I think they agreed to please her , but to me it is even more than that .This proves that she accepts them . Of course the wedding is beautiful and touching , but there are moments when both Sukhyun and Jongnam appear to look serious and sad . It hit me then that after all they had been through , they were finally receiving the blessing of family and friends on their marriage . So it was a big deal . When this show is good , it is very very good , and I find myself kind of sad to see it end ( again ) It brings back so many memories of a very special and fun time of my life ....and I guess it always will symbolize that time . I would like to let nelli have the last word - so I will post after she does on the final episode nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:43:29 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070129,from=rss#post2070129https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070129,from=rss#post2070129Yes, Shopping King Louie is very cute. I am watching Still 17 (aka 30 but 17) right now and it's really cute too. Lead in SKL is Seo Inguk. He is just adorable in this. 169 Well, this episode is the wedding of Jongnam and Suky. Nara somehow transformed into a human. Suky and Jongnam are now living with Nara and Jaeman and Jongnam is working again for Well Being. Of all the movies, dramas, etc. I've seen of pregnant women, I have to say Jongnam is the most beautiful and natural looking of any!! Kim Ah Joong is just beautiful and Jongnam is more beautiful in this episode than any other. Kiwoong, his father, sister and sis' boyfriend are running a very successful lunchbox cafe. And they all seem very happy. Jongnam has a tender moment with her mother before the wedding, telling her how much Jaeok taking her in has changed her and given her life. It was really sweet. 170 next. WOW.... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Tue, 14 Aug 2018 10:48:15 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070128,from=rss#post2070128https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070128,from=rss#post2070128Thanks .Nelli ! Actually my vacation plans were changed /cut short because there is so much smoke from the fires up North . I hope all these fires will be contained soon = but we haven't even entered our usual "fire season yet ! Are you still willing to watch Shopping King Louis when we finish ?nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Mon, 13 Aug 2018 18:12:27 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070127,from=rss#post2070127https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070127,from=rss#post2070127But... how was it that Gram had any say in that money (even if there were some)? It was money Nara's father gave Granpa Chang in exchange for MINSOOK and JAEDO giving up their son. TO me, if there had been even a penny, it ALL should have gone to Minsook and Jaedo. It was THEIR child, not granny's. I suppose I never thought about this scenario in previous watches. But this time it just irked the heck out of me the way everyone was so greedy about money that didn't belong to them! Even Nara wanted some. What, does she want a refund now that Suky is over 30? OMG.... lol, so irritating. Oh, Addie... Hope you had a great vacation! Got so mad posting above I forgot to mention it. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:47:59 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070126,from=rss#post2070126https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070126,from=rss#post2070126I am so sorry , Nelli , but I forgot to tell you that I was on vacation so I have not been posting or watching . I am back now so ..... 168 I really didn't remember too much about this episode and I guess that is a good thing . I think the most disgusting thing is the way that Jaeman grabbed Kiwoong by the throat and accused him of lying about the worth of the land . Besides being accused of lying , he basically was calling him a thief if he thought that he was trying to swindle the rest of the family out of the money that would come from the supposed sale . Kiwoong was as much of a victim of this as WELL as the messenger of the bad news . Then of course , Jaeman and Jaeok get so angry with each other that they refuse to come to the Chang home to greet Sukhyun on his return from hospital . Lets face it : Grandfather Chang ( who we never meet ) was a total loser , so why would this situation work out any differently . Gram - well she reacted as Gram , and due to her age , I feel I have to give her a pass . She rigged the whole police station scenario so that the "children " would get overthem selves and get back to normal . I would have great difficulty moving past all this stuff = especially when you throw Nara into the mix . Which is why I am glad I only have to watch it on DVD ( and I am grateful for that part )nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Sat, 11 Aug 2018 15:13:43 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070125,from=rss#post2070125https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070125,from=rss#post2070125Okdoo and her ex.. I wish they had gone a different direction with this storyline. Talk about a leopard not changing colors. I think they wanted us to believe he turned over a new leaf but as soon as he showed up, he was manipulative, creepy and controlling. He used his son to stay in a house he was not welcomed. Then they end them by making people think he changed and really loved Okdoo. How did he change? He was pulling the strings the entire time he was on the show. Hated they put them back together. Maybe we won't see them again since I watched 168 and we only have one left? Two? Forgot. lol nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:13:50 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070124,from=rss#post2070124https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070124,from=rss#post2070124167 The Changs aren't the first family to fight about money , and they won't be the last . It seems the height of folly however to fight about money you 1) DON"T actually have and 2) Don't know if you actually will have , As much as I like MOST of the members of this family , they are not striking me as very bright at this time . Sukhyun is getting to go home , and he and Jongnam are going home to the home of Nara and Jaeman . Nara abd Jaeok have packed up the apartment without telling them and while a part of me thinks that was presumptuous , the other part sees it as a very kind gesture . It would seem that neither Sukhyun nor Jongnam are up to the task . I still wonder at the practise of the young couple living with the inlays , but this is a cultural difference I probably am no qualified to make a judgement on . If the parents are Nara and Jaeman , however , I would still be prepared for trouble along the way . Do leopards really change their spots ? And did Jaeman ever seem any more obnoxious than he did today ? Am just going to ignore OkDoo and her ex nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:42:49 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070122,from=rss#post2070122https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070122,from=rss#post2070122167 Well, I agree that 166 was one of the best episodes. But 167 to me is the worst. Everyone was so greedy about that property deed. Everyone was counting the chickens before........ I can't believe they acted so ignorant and acted like that before having it checked first. Worst episode! 168 Granny was so disgusted with everyone's fighting over the money that she ran away from home. However, I didn't like her acting like it was HER money anyway. Did everyone forget how this came about? Even Nara acts like she's the one that gave the money to begin with. Nara wouldn't have save Suky unless he was given to her. Nara's father gave GrandPA money (like buying Suky). GrandPA wasn't the parent... Minsook and Suky's dad are the parents. Yet they knew nothing about this money. They are the ones who had to give up their child. That child was PAID for so if there was any money, it should go to Minsook/hubby. Anyway, Granny seems to think the money (2 million) is hers to give out. And Granny still got angry over the fighting for the money and ran away from home, where she ended up in the street stopping traffic because it was in the location where the property was. I'm sorry but this entire story (the money issue) is just ridiculous and uninteresting. Jaeman and Jaeok both acted so greedy! We did get to see a relationship starting with Jongnam and Nara. Nara seems to really accept Jongnam and Jongnam seems very thankful right now. TWO MORE EPISODES TO GO!!! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Mon, 23 Jul 2018 14:13:31 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070121,from=rss#post2070121https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070121,from=rss#post2070121Just a quick response to your post.... Yes, Nara did finally do something right, and I suppose, good for her. But she is Nara and she will always be Nara. Maybe a less harsh version is emerging but I can pretty much guarantee that Suky and Minsook's understanding and loving relationship will have to remain (forever) quiet, discreet. Nara is too jealous to allow anything but an occasional aunt/nephew meeting. I think from here on out, Nara will allow herself, Jaeman and Suky to attend family gatherings at Granny's. But Suky will always have to be careful not to show too much affection for Minsook. Somehow, I think Minsook and Suky will be oK with this. They had their revelation and they each know what the other feels.  Nara will always be queen of the "B" to me. OK, on to 167.... lol yep, ending is just around the corner. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Sun, 22 Jul 2018 14:31:27 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070120,from=rss#post2070120https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070120,from=rss#post2070120Welcome back , Nelly . Of course I didn't get right back . For some reason I might have been dragging my feet . I guess part of me is conflicted about this rewatch coming to an end . I have not been watching K dramas as much of late and I realize I miss them . I am going to try to follow some again , though I find it more difficult now . It is really a solitary endeavor . We don't have the structure of following the airing on the channel and we do not appear too have the group we once had . I am sad about that . I know , however that times change 166 If I had to pick a favorite episode , it would probably be this one . I had forgotten a lot of what went on ,but the church scene between Sukhyun and Minsook was the pinnacle of this story for me ....but I am getting ahead of myself . I was surprised when Nara pulled off being gracious to just about everyone . I am not sure I would ever consider her trustworthy , but she seemed to get over her stupidity in regards to her son and finally step up to the plate . I guess if I were in the story I would also just be grateful that the transplant was going ahead . The church scene was the culmination of relationship between mother and son .Minsook gets to tell her truth , and Sukhyun comes to realize the amount of love pain and sacrifice that it took to save his life to this point .I guess he can see both of his mothers clearly , and he can feel both love and gratitude . When he grabbed Minsooks hand in the ICU , I felt there would always be a special relationship between them , and if Nara has a problem - well it is hers alone . You know , I know a person that I can see Nara in - well in her flip flopping and even her jealousy . The kind of jealousy where that person doesn't want to share other people's company with her own children . I will never understand that in any culture , but again , that is HER and Nara's problem On the whole a wonderful episode ! nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:20:08 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070119,from=rss#post2070119https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070119,from=rss#post2070119166 I seriously was planning to watch 2 episodes (since I've been absent for so long) but cried pretty much thru all of 166!!! So quit for today. lol Nara does an about face and is all sweet (as is possible for her) and nice to Jongnam and Suky and, yes, even Minsook. I didn't feel at all any sympathy for her. I didn't jump for joy because she came to her senses. To me she is just pure nasty and hateful and no matter how great she will be in the future, I will always hold her past against her .. lol Best scenes def were between Minsook and Suky. Suky gives Minsook what she most wants in the world... her youngest son. He calls her mom in the church. He hugs her. He lets her know he cares very much for her. She tells him how she suffered when she thought he would die and that Nara was her only hope for his survival. Suky finally understands her pain and how much she loved him. So much she handed him over to someone else to raise. Nara even was almost not as nasty to Yujeong. She did have to shush her in the hospital when Yu was asking (so inappropriate) about Nara and Jongnam's relationship. But Nara is done (for now) making everyone hold their breath when she's around. Almost there!!! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:36:56 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070118,from=rss#post2070118https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070118,from=rss#post2070118Will return the 3rd. May take me a few days to get back in to BB tho. Do want to agree with you on something. At this point, there is nothing Nara could ever do to make me forgive her or think in any way positive about her. She is as evil as they come. She's selfish, she's arrogant, she's cruel, she's controlling, she's absolutely downright vicious. Even those who have been kind to her (Haein's mom) she looks down on. When they show her all alone in her house, feeling sorry for herself, as if SHE were the one suffering, I seriously think they (whoever 'they' are) are trying to make the viewers feel pity for her. She is vile. And even tho we know how it ends, she will never be forgiven in my book. Will be spending time w/new (sort of) great grandson... Granddaughter is adopting him. Looking forward to some more time w/this little guy. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Thu, 21 Jun 2018 20:10:41 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070116,from=rss#post2070116https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070116,from=rss#post2070116I did watch another episode today , but I guess that will be it until I hear from Nelly that she is back . I was thinking about what you said about the land windfall subplot , and I agree except for the fact that Gram has been clutching that spoon holder and talking to her deceased husband through it throughout almost the entire series . It would be odd if they did not address it before the end of the show 165 Regarding the supposed fortune the Chang family has acquired through land : it is almost ludicrous the way Gram is counting her chickens before they are hatched . At the very least I would expect any person of sense to take the document in for verification of it's worth before treating her cronies to lunch or having people sign leases for store fronts . However , we don't get much of a diversion from the drama of Sukhyun's illness and indeed it appears that his situation is getting dire . I was happy when Jaeman yelled at Nara and told her off . It is about time someone did , and I hoped that some of his words would penetrate that thick skull of hers . I must say that nothing Nara did at this point would elevate her in my eyes . There has been too much malice , hatefulness and downright meanness and inexcusable behavior on her part for me to ever think of forgiveness . That is one thing I found difficult in Kdramas . I think Nara is the absolute worst of the worst and she deserves to be shunned . WOW - I guess I should tell you how I really feel . It further disgusted me that Minsook had to kneel before her and beg for Sukhyun's life in order to make Nara finally get off her duff and go to the hospital . It shows once again that Minsook's love has no bounds , and she would do anything four her children including humbling herself before a hateful person and literally risk her own life to save his . It once again makes me think of the Bible story where two women went to King Solomon and both said the baby belonged to them . King Solomon said that the only solution would be to slice the baby in half and give each woman one half . One of the women thought that was a good idea and the other one told King Solomon to give the baby to the other woman King Solomon knew then that the real mother was the one who would let the other woman have her baby as long as he lived . Nara wold be the other woman who would be ok with the idea of cutting the baby in half . I hope you have a good trip , Nelly and please let me know when you are back nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:37:31 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070114,from=rss#post2070114https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070114,from=rss#post2070114164/165 Seriously unpleasant episodes to watch. Nara wallowing in her self pity, and crying about why should she have anything to do with Suky when SHE isn't being recognized as his mother. OMG she is such an evil "B"!!! I couldn't stand Jaedo when he was talking off lazy greedy Jaeman (about moving in with them again). Jaedo says he feels sorry for Nara. Jaedo will never 'get it'. All that Nara has done in her mistreatment of MInsook over the years. Doesn't matter, Jaedo thinks his gratitude knows no bounds. Whatever Nara does is fine. Irritated with how greedy ALL of them were over that money. In my book, they should just hand it all over to Suky!!! But Nara thinks SHE should get 1/2. Apparently her father is still alive so shouldn't HE get her half? lol GREED GREED GREED!!! And last, Minsook, our beloved long suffering Minsook, irritated me. When Suky is calling out for his mother, she comes in close with such expectations on her face. SERIOUSLY? Did you really think he was calling YOU? I know I know, Minsook IS his mother. But she didn't raise him, Nara did. Minsook's hovering over Suky bothers me. When he fell asleep she was stroking his face. DON'T DO THAT!!! You lived all these years as his aunt. Continue to do so. I'm so sorry. Must be in a mood or something. No one made me happy today. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:09:17 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070113,from=rss#post2070113https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070113,from=rss#post2070113Will get on 164 shortly... But had a comment re your post above. Jaedo's complete acceptance of Nara's control over Suky's life. I know he was grateful to her but he is stupid for thinking whatever Nara does or says, or how she looks down on him and Minsook is acceptable because she took Suky when he was a baby. OK, fine, she saved his life. What pisses me off about this is that if they hadn't handed Suky over, Nara would have let that boy DIE... She is void of compassion, love, kindness, consideration... just about any decent human emotion. All I see is Nara consumed with Nara... Also: FYI will be gone from June 23 until July 3 so will finish BB up sometime when I get back.. LOL how long has this re-watch taken? I don't care.. It's been a slow journey but one I've enjoyed taking. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:05:28 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070112,from=rss#post2070112https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070112,from=rss#post2070112164 is kind of funny in that Gram almost passes out when she hears the deed may be worth up to $ 2 million . I don't know if that is Dollars or Won ....any-who , it doesn't stop from Jaeok and Kiwoong from shopping for new storefronts for their business . Jaeman has slime-ingly moved into Jaedo and Minsooks house , and Nara continues to hole up in her house . YuJing is very excited about HAein's connection to the supposed windfall and rushes over to Nara to try to get more info. Meanwhile , Sukhyun is getting sicker and I am gratified to see that he is listening to KIwoong without hostility . It is also clear ( to us anyway ) that the reason for the delay in surgery is indeed because he is concerned for Minsooks health . Although he hasn't discussed this with anyone , he acknowledges the suffering and sacrifice that his biological parents ( especially Minsook ) made in giving him up to Nara and Jaeman . I am not saying that JAedo didn't suffer as well , but it seems to me that he was perhaps so grateful that Sukhyun's life was saved that he had no problem with abiding by the conditions that Nara had set . In a recent episode , we saw that Sukhun had a memory which reflected that . Nara , though she wants Sukhyun to live , is still jealous of MInsook . She is pathetic , though I have no pity for her . I don't think she deserves it .nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:00:52 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070109,from=rss#post2070109https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070109,from=rss#post2070109`162/163 Well, seems both episodes were covering the spoon pouch and the land document inside. Funny how everyone jumped on the money band wagon and assumed the land would be worth a million. And funny how they all seemed to think THEY should get half of that amount. They all acted so disgusting. Jaeman was by far the worst. He packed up and moved out of Jaeok's and back to grandma's room. Jaeman is really an ignorant man. He is so simple minded (not in a sweet way either). I just don't get him. Watching him around Nara is really something. He acts like a male black widow, inching towards her in a jerking way, afraid she'll strike. I never remembered disliking him before. But I dislike him now. Anyway, seems everyone is speculating about how much they're gonna get before anyone tries to find out exactly where the land is located and how much is actually is. Just counting their chickens..... I was going to go on to 164 but BB is really not enjoyable at all now. I feel like the money story is just 'filler' and they're dragging out the transplant issue. Nara did tell Suky the right thing (you mentioned in your post) about getting the transplant. She wants him to have it even tho the liver will come from Minsook. But she can't let that go. She has to make nasty jealous comments to him. WHY? She is so jealous, petty and small minded that even her son, standing in front of her, ready to collapse and she makes it about herself. I just don't know if I've ever hated a character more. lol Almost there! Almost... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Sat, 02 Jun 2018 16:15:29 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070107,from=rss#post2070107https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070107,from=rss#post2070107I need to catch up. Been w/o a computer for a few days but today finally got back on. I never could understand why Granny held on to that stupid spoon pouch. Seriously, NO ONE WOULD EVER!! But I just look at these idiotic incidents as 'fillers' for the show. It's been hard to push forward. Nara is so disgusting and I keep thinking about how she gets off having to pay for all these years of hatred for Minsook and horrid treatment of both Suky and Jongnam this past year. She's always looked down on Minsook. I have tried to look at things thru her eyes. I tried to imagine her fear at her beloved son finding out the truth, that she was not his bio mom. I understand that is most likely the primary reason for her always trying to keep Suky away from 'those' Changs. But she is just too much to ever understand. I can't stand her. I'll try to watch tomorrow. Two episode. lol I remember I could hardly wait to get to the next one. Now I have to force myself. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Tue, 29 May 2018 18:40:17 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070106,from=rss#post2070106https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070106,from=rss#post2070106I did get around to watching another episode but , obviously , did not post . 163 Gram finally opens the spoon holder and finds a letter and a land document . I think the silliness quotient goes up quite a bit in this episode as we see a lot of speculation and counting of chickens before they are hatched ! Before the family even goes to find out what the document means they are halfway to spending the money . The only good info to come out - as far as I can see is that everyone finally knows what Grandpa Chang did with the money that was given to him " for Sukhyun " Maybe it will help Sukhyun get past his anger , but I am not seeing it yet . I can't really say much beyond that - Nara of course is brooding like a witch in her house , and poor Byundoo looks like he is going to lose his 10k check now that Youjing knows about it ! We are on the home stretch , I guess nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Tue, 29 May 2018 08:10:29 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070102,from=rss#post2070102https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070102,from=rss#post2070102Happy Memorial Day to all here . I Am going to watch two episodes today = the other one will be later . 162 As mentioned , Sukhyun with his last bit of energy walks to Nara and gives her a beautiful bouquet for parents day . She finally says something I can get behind " If you want me to see you as my son , get the liver transplant " . I am toured of her schizoid behavior - she is calling someone to help them find a donor since she has so much money ..... BTW , since she has so much money , I wonder why she begrudges the money given to Grandpa Chang ??? I guess it is a question of you can never have enough - did any one else hear the story about John D Rockefeller only tipping a dime ?? I don't know if that is urban legend or not . Don't get me wrong , I am not excusing Grandpa Chang . He sounds like a total loser and even Gram deserved better . I am surprised any of the kids turned out ok ( but now we know where Jaeman gets it ) At least that makes Sukhyun consider the possibility and he is talking to the Dr about the possibility . Since he is asking about the risk of the surgery to a 50 yr old woman , I am thinking he cares even tho0ugh he denies it Ho hum ( yawn ) Okdoo's ex ...... Haien finds out that Kiwoongs investment is from her dad - and she doesn't feel right about it . They end up having their first fight . It is embarrassing because Gram comes to break it up . That is the problem in living in a household with extended family . I think one would have to whisper ! Gram is definitely old school as she chides Haien for talking to her husband that was . I think it is cool that Haein and Kiwoong have an equal relationship and look where being deferential got Gram - just saying . Gram and Minsook are also uncomfortable with the idea of the money for the business coming from ByunDoo - so Gram is going to , at long last , open the spoon holder . Be back later today nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Mon, 28 May 2018 11:57:50 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070101,from=rss#post2070101https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070101,from=rss#post2070101OK, so I sat down thinking I'd watch 161 and 162. I could barely get thru 161. So incredibly depressing. Suky, well, I know you are kinder than me. You give him a pass. Right now, I just can't. He knows good and well that Minsook told him the truth. She and the rest of the family knew nothing about that money. And she told him they got the house because they jumped on it when it was up for auction. It took them 15 years to pay it off. But Suky I think is choosing to stay mad because it's what Nara wants him to do. He has some loyalty issue thinking by staying angry at Minsook (and the rest of 'those' Chang's) that he is being faithful to Nara. Nara's behavior. OMG OMG.. I HATE how they play that 'poor pitiful me music' when Nara is suffering so much over her son. The son she'd rather see dead than take Minsook's liver. The son she'd rather see dead than have him live a happy life with Jongnam. Nara's obsession with Suky has consumed her. But prior to him meeting and falling in love with Jongnam, Suky was happy to be under Nara's control... She was kind and loving to him as long as he followed her decisions. He went against her when he chose Jongnam so that was the beginning of the end to Nara. I wish Suky would tell Nara to go to H#LL. And how could a mother who supposedly loved her child watch as he walked deathly ill down the street holding flowers for his mom. He was risking his life to bring those to her. Did she run to help him or rush to hug him? She is a monster. I tried to continue with ep 162 but I just couldn't do it. 161 pretty much exhausted me. So I'll have to wait for you to do it first. lol I'll read your post then maybe I can watch it. I actually liked what little Jaedo said to Suky. It wasn't anything passionate or pleading or anything. Just simple words from a simple man and he kept it short. Jaedo has never looked at Suky as his son. He's always accepted Jaeman and Nara as Suky's parents. Minsook has tried to but Suky will always be her son, in her heart. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Fri, 18 May 2018 21:50:33 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070099,from=rss#post2070099https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070099,from=rss#post2070099161 Ok , the biggest moment of this episode for me was when Jaedo went to see Sukhyun . I lied the fact that he went in there and asked him if he was ok , told him that Minsook wasn't sleeping and was upset . I think it was telling that JAedo did not try to explain himself to Sukhyun at all - nit now and not the past . I think it is the best tactic because he would n't listen anyway . It surprised Suky , but it also was making him think .Jongnam must know the truth , Jaeok would have told them . Sukhyun is being hateful to Minsook . Nara is continuing to be Nara . I want to shake her and shout " Does your doctor know you are not taking your medication ??" Because we all know that she needs to be on something . Everyone is on edge : and I can't blame Sukhyun - though it seems to be extremely foolhardy of him to leave the hospital without permission and walk to his mother's house ? Oh no Nara ...were you really going to try to ignore him and drive away ? When I see that smirk on her face , my palm starts itching . I would not want her Karma nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Wed, 16 May 2018 17:49:45 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070098,from=rss#post2070098https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070098,from=rss#post2070098160 I apologize for the delay in getting back here and watching the next episode . I'll be honest : a part of me needed a break for the unpleasantness that was brewing . I was ready ( finally ) to watch the next installment . I am glad Sukhyun told Kiwoong . I guess he was the only one he could - and we all knew that it was going to bust out of him somehow . While I really don't like Sukhyun's behavior lately , most of the time I have to give him a pass because he is gravely ill . At least there is some opportunity for the real story to come out ...too bad Sukhyun is not ready to hear it . Nara is a piece of work . The only time she comes to the hospital is when she hears the surgery was cancelled . I can't even guess how long it has been since she saw her son . We know she hasn't answered his calls and he has been in hospital for some time . Yet when she DOES go , she walks in on a conversation between Suky and Minsook - and she is upset by the fact that Suky's true parentage is out . She runs off and leaves in a veritable huff . So , as we see , it is still all about her . When I call he a butt- head , I feel that I am being much took kind ! Why Jaeman still has any patience with her is beyond me . I have decided that there is not enough money in the world to make me like her . In the meantime , Suky is still refusing to receive the liver transplant . I had a thought : if Nara indeed cared about Sukhyun as a mother would , I believe she would indeed beg him to have a transplant to save his life - regardless of who the donor was . Minsook on the other hand will do anything - including appearing greedy and accepting money for her liver . SIGH > I am ignoring Okdoo, Eunbin , and What's his name outing to the amusement park . It was my cue to go get a Coke Zero nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Wed, 16 May 2018 17:09:13 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070096,from=rss#post2070096https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070096,from=rss#post2070096161 161 actually didn't upset me as much as 159. At least not until towards the end. Looks like Okdoo has suddenly warmed up to that creep. I think it must have had a lot to do with her son. Wanting to do whatever makes him happy. And maybe hearing that Nara was going to divorce Jaeman... who knows, maybe that gave her a push towards the creep also. But whatever, she seems happy with him now. Hope we can get rid of them now. Minsook can't even explain to Suky. He tells her he knows she sold him. Since she recently found out that gramps took money from Nara's father, she can't deny it. She did try but Suky just won't hear her out. Then Nara comes in and all she hears is Minsook swearing she didn't abandon Suky. Nara acts like she's losing her 3 yr old son to someone. What the heck is wrong with that woman? And the way she treats Suky makes me so disgusted. And through this all my heart just breaks for Jongnam. That poor girl really has to deal with so much. Kiwoong... wow, how'd he get at the top of my list of favorite people? lol He is trying hard to understand it all. He's mad at Suky and tells Haein that Suky is conceited. YES YES YES... Suky IS conceited. I realize Suky is dealing with a lot now too but he is so stubborn that it just makes me so angry at him. How nasty of him to off to buy Minsook's liver. Well, she goes back to him and tells him OK.... she'll sell it. Meanwhile, Nara is sitting alone in her house, wallowing in her self made misery. I wish she'd drown in it. We're getting there.... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Tue, 08 May 2018 19:14:22 +0000 Re:https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070095,from=rss#post2070095https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070095,from=rss#post2070095I really had my episodes mixed up. lol Well, Suky is acting like an enormous ASS. Oh I could just slap his beautiful face. He is just as stubborn and rigid as Nara. They are truly mother and son. Nara's behavior is just incomprehensible. How would any mother refuse to see a son who is dying? How could she continue to act like she's the victim and sitting around crying like she's been done some horrid wrong. This entire incident (her refusing to speak to Suky) is because he loved someone she didn't want him to love. He's 27. She acts like he's 2. Like she has to still make all his decisions for him. She is jealous, obsessive, controlling. I can't stand her. Next to her, I can't stand that ex of Okdoo's. I will admit, I had to fast forward through most scenes with him. I wish he'd get hit by a truck or something. I wish Nara and Jaeman would divorce and Jaeman would get back with Okdoo. lol Anyway, this was a very difficult episode. Suky's nasty behavior towards Minsook... well, actually the entire Chang family. Oh my how much he is like Nara. He gets so mad at Jongnam at one point that he raises his hand and almost hits her. Jongnam is really putting up with a lot. Amazing that she hasn't miscarried. Suky is being so unreasonable, so hateful, so stubborn. I can't even stand him.. However, the ending was wonderful. Suky finally blurted out to Kiwoong the awful truth. At least now people can talk about it and move forward (or backward). At least we know Kiwoong isn't gonna keep this news quiet. So glad Suky got so frustrated that he just couldn't hold it in. NOW IT'S GONNA HIT THE FAN! lol nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nelli33)Tue, 08 May 2018 17:19:02 +0000 Re: KDrama Rewatch in the Den : Bizarre Bunchhttps://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070094,from=rss#post2070094https://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/p2070094,from=rss#post2070094159 Hi Smoochie - it is nice to see you in the den ! I wish you could join us !! This episode shocked me in how much I had forgotten . I know Sukhyun is seriously ill , but I still have a problem with him stoically turning to the wall and tuning out crying relatives - especially Jongnam and Gram .He will not take the liver transplant . Minsook knows he hates her now , though she is still unsure why . It is Kiwoong who gets him to spill - and it is a bombshell . However , it is well that the truth is coming out - or at least the version that Sukhyun believes . There is no way for anyone to refute it if they don't know about it . It really bothers me how much distress he is putting Jongnam through . Is Sukhyun a complete Nara ? At this moment - it seems so . She is praying for Sukhyun at the temple , but she still doesn't see fit to go see him or return his calls . SHEESH . I have decided to ignore Okdoo's slimy ex , so the best part about this ep is that Kiwoong finally has an investor - ByunDoo . This episode packs quite a wallop and is setting the scene for the ones to come .nondisclosed_email@example.com (addie04)Sat, 05 May 2018 18:51:48 +0000