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J-Drama: JIN 2


Note: In their newly released magazine, UTB announced that the next Sunday night drama will be the second season of Jin. They haven't announced it anywhere else yet, but I think they'll start airing promos for it sometime in September.

Here's our discussion of the first season of Jin.


UTB 18.2 Sunday Drama: JIN SEASON 2

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Starts on Sunday, October 2nd, 2011
Airs on UTB Channel 18.2 on Sundays from 9:00p ~ 10:00p.
(Following the end of 99 Years of Love)

With English subtitles

Also aired on:
Early Mondays anytime from 1:30a ~ 3:30a
Mondays from 11:00a ~ 12:00p
Mondays from 5:00p ~ 6:00p
Mondays from 8:00p ~ 9:00p

Summary
2 years have passed... Jin and Saki develop a sweet confectionery that contains medicine for Saki’s mother who has a severe case of beriberi. Meanwhile, Ryoma asks Jin to care for Kaishuu Katsu’s mentor, Shozan Sakuma. Shozan is in a critical state after being attacked by the Shinsengumi. Jin is reluctant because curing Shozan would mean changing the course of history. However, Shozan tells him that he too is involved in the “present”.—DramaWiki

Drama Information
Number of Episodes: 11
Genre: Medical/Historical
Theme song: Itoshiki Hibiyo by Hirai Ken
Originally aired: 04/17/2011 - 06/26/2011 on Channel TBS in Japan

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DramaWiki doesn’t have a correlation chart available. If anyone can find an English translation of the correlation chart, it would be great if you could post it here. Thx! emoticon

Cast class ul class li Osawa Takao as Minakata Jin class li Ayase Haruka as Tachibana Saki class li Koide Keisuke as Tachibana Kyotaro class li Aso Yumi as Tachibana Ei class li Uchino Masaaki as Sakamoto Ryoma class li Nakatani Miki as Tomonaga Miki / Nokaze class li Kiritani Kenta as Saburi Yusuke class li Taguchi Hiromasa as Yamada Junan class li Izawa Masaki as Kiichi class li Hashimoto Mami as Akane class li Jiro Sato as Genkou Fukuda class li Kohinata Fumiyo as Katsu Rintaro (Kaishuu) class li Kazuyuki Aijima as Antaku TakiComplete cast information (as well as listing of guest stars and production credits) is available at the DramaWiki website.

Recognitions class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Drama class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Actor - Osawa Takao class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Supporting Actor - Uchino Masaaki class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Supporting Actress - Ayase Haruka class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Screenwriter - Morishita Yoshiko class li 69th Television Drama Academy Awards: Best Directors - Hirakawa Yuichiro, Yamamuro Daisuke, Nasuda Jun

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I just pick up newly magazine called UTB 18.2 TV Magazine at Sprout Market 30 minutes ago. TV Asahi and KSCI 18 gave congratulation on UTB's 40th anniversary.

I'm glad to see JIN back for second season. I heard show get high tv rating.
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Yes, and it looks like it won quite a few academy awards, as well—including the awards for Best Drama and Best Actor. Looking forward to this one!
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Just a quick reminder that Episode 1, Part 1, of JIN 2 airs tomorrow (Sunday 10/2) at 9:00p. According to UTB's program schedule, tomorrow's episode will run until about 10:15p.

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Hi Hiroshi66
how are you doing or Ogenki desu ka?

I've seen Jin on Drama Crazy.net 3 months before UTB. Almost at the end will show how he got there in the first place. I will not tell a soul. The Drama is better than than the first one.
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Glad to hear from you, Diane! I've heard that this second season was much better than the first. It looks like it won quite a few awards, as well. I'm looking forward to watching the first episode tomorrow.
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I was just reading over our discussion of the first season of JIN to review what exactly happened during the season. I think it aired over a year ago and so I can hardly remember the minor details of what exactly took place. Before reviewing the thread, all I remembered was that a mysterious fetus somehow transported a doctor back to the Edo Period! LOL!

However, reading the thread reminded me about how disappointed we were with all the loose ends left unsolved at the end of the first season. I hope that the second season will address all those unsolved mysteries instead of leaving us even more confused. However, I've heard that the second season was a lot better than the first (and won lots of academy awards, too) so I'm hoping that we'll be more satisfied after watching Season 2.

If anyone else wants to review what happened in the first season before tonight's premiere episode, here's a link to our discussion of JIN 1:

JIN 1 Discussion Thread

Also, just wanted to remind everyone again that tonight will be the first half of Episode 1, and it will run from 9:00p to 10:15p.

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Just a quick note that UTB will air Episode 1, Part 2, next Sunday (10/9) and it will run an extra fifteen minutes again—until 10:15p. Starting the following week (9/16) with Episode 2, the drama will go back to its regular time of ending at 10:00p.

Episode 1 (Part 1)

I have really missed watching dramas during this Sunday night time slot! I've realized that I haven't been watching many of UTB's selections during this time slot (either because they are dramas we've seen already, or because they are just a little too much to sit through—like Bloody Monday!) and it just felt nice to finally watch something again during this time. I did notice that UTB has started using new subtitles. The previous ones were yellow and quite tiny, so it was hard to read at times. This time, the font is much more clear and it seems that they are using a professional translation agency for the e-subs (the credits mentioned that it was done by JVTA, a translation company.)

As for the drama itself, I can see why Season 2 is said to be better than Season 1. From a historical standpoint, it looks like they are trying to make it a little more historically accurate than the first season. We got to see a little more of Ryoma's philosophical side that we got so used to seeing in Ryomaden. In Season 1, I felt sometimes like they had him here for 'comic relief' so it was nice to see him talking to Jin about his dreams for the country and for the future. There's also lots of references to the tense political situation in the country at the time between the two rival clans of Satsuma and Choshu.

I don't know if it was because the episode was longer tonight, but it felt a bit like there was a bit too much going on at times. Maybe it was because this is Episode 1 and the writers wanted to remind viewers about what happened in the previous series, as well as making it possible for new viewers to tune in, too. They featured all of the characters from the first season at different times, all with different story lines. So it turned out that while we were seeing the story about Saki's mother in the first half, the episode soon changed course and became about saving Dr. Shozan. At least the writers did it in a coherent manner where everything made sense, though.

Saki, the daughter of a prominent samurai family who was working with Jin, is not able to meet with her mother because she refuses to meet with her. After Saki walked out on her engagement to a prominent samurai in the first season, her brother has been barred entry from the castle, and her mother has been refusing to see or speak with her. Unfortunately, the mother also developed the beriberi illness, caused from eating too much white rice. {Wikipedia article on url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriberi]Beriberi[/url]) This was a common ailment during the Edo Period, and if I remember correctly, the Shogun Iesada (Atsu-hime's husband) died of the same ailment in 1858. This drama takes place in 1864, so it's around the same period.

The only cure is eating potatoes and beans, and switching to brown rice instead of white rice, but Saki's mother refuses to do so because she says she has nothing more to live for now that her son has been barred from the castle and Saki has left her. Jin and Saki disguise potatoes in the form of donuts and have them delivered to the mother, since she loves sweets. She takes one bite out of it, but it appears that she figured out the contents of the donuts and didn't eat anymore. I must say, those 'potato donuts' did look good, though! How funny that they ended up calling them donuts, too!

At the same time, Sakamoto Ryoma seeks Jin out again to help him rescue a certain Dr. Shozan. Shozan is a famous Western doctor and intellectual, but he was hunted down by anti-foreigner elements and brutally attacked. It was rumored that he was beheaded, but Ryoma says that the head that is on display is not Shozan's. Shozan is in critical condition, and Ryoma asks Jin to travel to Kyoto to treat Shozan.

This is when Satsuma and Choshu are both warring with each other in the city of Kyoto. Satsuma has the Imperial Court's backing and has accused Choshu of being imperial enemies. Random samurai from Choshu were roaming around Kyoto, harassing people whom they believed to be from the Tokugawa. When Jin, Ryoma, and his entourage reach Kyoto, they are even stopped, but Ryoma's friend in the Choshu army, Kosaka, manages to help them out.

How fascinating that Shozan had been to the future before!! Jin noticed by the material that he had on him—it was the remnants of a material used to make bandage in the 'future.' How did Shozan have it? When he came to, Shozan asked Jin if he was from the future, after noticing all the modern medical equipment. It turned out that when he was little, Shozan had fallen from a tree and been transported to the future—2010. He was in a hospital and stayed there for some time, learning all he could learn about the world. Then, one day, while falling from a staircase, he was brought back to the past. Sounds similar to Jin's story! If one can go back to the past from the future, I suppose they can go back to the future from the past then, too. Good news for Jin.

The flames from the Satsuma-Choshu battle eventually engulf the entire city, and Jin has to escape. Shozan stays behind in the flames, asking Jin to save everyone he can. Jin ends up setting up a temporary shelter for everyone injured by the fire.

I hope Shozan's words about Jin changing history will stick with him. In Season 1, Jin never wanted to do too much so that he does not alter history. However, Shozan tells him that maybe the reason he was put in this time and place was to change history. This seemed to give Jin a little inspiration.

Interesting start, but we'll see how the rest of the first episode goes. Part 2 airs next Sunday!
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Warning: If you haven't watched the episode yet, please note that there are some very graphic scenes during the surgeries (especially the scenes with Saigo's surgery) so please view with caution.

Also, just a quick reminder that starting with next week's Episode 2, the episodes will go back to finishing at their regular time (10:00p) instead of at 10:15p.


Episode 1, Part 2

Hmm, after watching the entire first episode, but I'm not quite too sure what I think about this one. It felt like we were just seeing a whole bunch of isolated stories loosely tied together. The story with Saki's mom, Saigo Takamori, Ryoma, Satsuma v. Choshu, etc., all had one thing in common—Dr. Jin. Even though like the writer may have been trying to fit everything into one big episode to set up the premise for the second season, it felt like we were just seeing a bunch of loosely connected stories thrown together.

Also, I can't remember how many graphic scenes we saw in Season 1, but I didn't appreciate all those gruesomely graphic scenes we saw during the surgery scenes... the ones in tonight's episode sort of caught me off guard, and I had to literally turn away during the moment where Jin was conducting surgery on Saigo, who was suffering from appendicitis. They could have put a little disclaimer in there to warn us! I guess we'll have to tread with caution since this is a medical drama, but still...

So, what were the major plots in this one?

Satsuma v. Choshu - The one event that remains true to the actual history is the mini-civil war between Satsuma and Choshu in 1864, which left many parts of Kyoto burned. Choshu was controlled by anti-foreign elements who attacked the Imperial Palace and the Tokugawa troops, who were aided by the Satsuma clan. Satsuma fought back, and in the ensuing battle (where Choshu fired shots at the Imperial Palace) many parts of Kyoto burned to the ground—thousands of civilians were also killed and wounded in the fighting. At this time, Satsuma and Choshu deeply hated each other, and many people were angry at Choshu for causing the war.

Saigo - Jin is dragged by the Shinsengumi (who were allied with the Satsuma clan at the time, since they were pro-Tokugawa) to treat Saigo Takamori, the head of the Satsuma clan. Jin was trying to help the many civilians (despite a severe shortage of penicillin) and was hesitant to treat Saigo. However, it soon became evident that Saigo was suffering from appendicitis, and Jin decides to perform surgery, though he pretty much told the troops that he was going to commit "harakiri" on Saigo to remove the appendix—that didn't go along too well with the Satsuma clansmen! LOL! Eventually, despite getting interrupted by a Choshu "sneak attack" during the surgery and the death of two Choshu clansmen, Saigo's operation seems to be a success... though we don't see him come to after the operation is completed. Jin is still in shock from the events of the past few weeks... seeing all the deaths of innocent people, the destruction of the city, etc., has had a very negative effect on him.

Ryoma & 'The Fetus' - We had some interesting scenes involving Ryoma. Jin was basically trying to tell Ryoma about his assassination (in so many words) but right before he broke the news to Ryoma about his future, Jin got a piercing headache... we, the viewers, also got a quick view of the mysterious fetus, too. I wonder if this means that if Jin tries to alter the future deliberately by breaking news of someone's future to them, he will get that paralyzing headache and be literally stopped in his tracks?

Saki and her mother - My favorite part was seeing Saki's mother recovered from her beriberi illness. Thanks to Kiichi, the little boy, Saki's mother agreed to eat the red bean donuts that put her on the path to recovery. Jin was overjoyed to see her better, too. Also, things seem to be getting better between Saki and her mother. The mother essentially encourages Saki to do her best—it was (in her own way) a blessing to become the first female doctor in Edo, which is what Saki wants to do.

Now we have the mystery of the coin from 2010 in the cloth that Jin received from Dr. Shozan. I wonder if it is a clue to find his way back to the future, since Dr. Shozan had gone through the same experience as Jin?

Now we have all these mysteries with the 'red bean donuts.' I wonder if they really have a red bean flavored donut in Japan?? If so, I guess Jin invented it! emoticon

I liked the ending theme, with the black and white pictures of old Edo juxtaposed against the pictures of modern Tokyo. I think they did something similar with the ending of Season 1, too.

Episode 2 airs next Sunday.

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Episode 2

I found this episode to be more interesting than the premiere episode for some reason, even though I still can’t feel myself getting into it. Maybe it was because of the addition of the Ooku (the inner quarters of Edo Castle) and Princess Kazunomiya into the story. We saw Kazunomiya’s story depicted in the 2008 Taiga Drama, Atsuhime, and it was very fascinating. Kazunomiya had been engaged before but was forced into a political marriage where she married the Tokugawa Shogun. If I remember correctly, the couple was only 16 at the time. Kazunomiya was forced to move into Edo Castle, where she found it very difficult to adjust to her new lifestyle. There were also some tensions with her mother-in-law, Atsuhime. I don’t think we’ll be seeing her story addressed in any detail here, but it was interesting to see that they included her.

In the drama, we hear that Kazunomiya is suffering from beriberi and Jin is given the chance to have her sample the donuts he introduced. Since they help towards curing beriberi, Kazunomiya was very interested in trying them. This actually worked out great. Jin’s practice was not making money, and he was short on funds. In fact, we learn that none of the doctors he is working with, along with Saki, are receiving any pay and are pretty much working for free. Selling the donuts to the imperial family would be a great financial opportunity.

I think this episode really showed how much Saki truly cares about Jin. In the beginning, we see her praying for him to remain in Edo and not disappear back to the future. She even pawned her own personal items to get money for his practice and even for a new formal kimono that he can wear when meeting with the Princess. By the end of the episode, however, I got the feeling that both Jin and Saki realized the extent of how much they care about each other. Saki prayed in her jail cell that Jin be sent back to the future, if it would result in his life being saved. As for Jin, he pretty much reversed the action of returning back to the future by wanting to stay in the ‘present’, thinking of how much he wanted to see what happened to Saki. Thus, it seemed like by biting the hand of the person who was trying to kill him, he reversed the action of going back to the future and remained in the present. Interesting scene there.

So why did Jin end up in prison in the first place? It looks like there was some conspiracy going on where one of the doctors was forced by a rival doctor to betray Jin and sabotage the sampling of the donuts by Kazunomiya. I think some kind of arsenic poison was added to the donuts, and when Jin and Saki went to Edo Castle so Kazunomiya could taste them, they had no idea about it. Kazunomiya collapsed after tasting the donuts and it was revealed that she had been poisoned. Though Jin pretty much saved her life by clearing the poison from her body, Jin and Saki were still arrested.

The prison scene was certainly scary. I can’t imagine how frightening it would have been for Jin to be put in a prison during the samurai era! The prison required a “thread” (a bribe) from new prisoners so that they could be protected. Jin didn’t have this money, and thus he was subjugated to brutal treatment... which ended up resulting in him almost being killed by the other prisoners. Saki was put into a cell by herself, however, and didn’t appear to have been harmed.

We’ll see what happens with this in the next episode. Since it appears to have been a huge conspiracy, I wonder if it will be difficult to free Jin and Saki. Nokaze seemed to be up to something, too.

Speaking of Nokaze, it was nice to see her back. I really liked the Nokaze actor in the first season and am glad to see her back in a main role in this season, as well.

Though this episode was more interesting than the first one, I still feel like I am not very much into this drama. I don’t know why. Jin’s long monologues where he reflects on his present state and why things are the way they are seem to be almost repeated from other episodes... I feel like we heard him thinking about the same things in the first season! But I guess it’s still early so hopefully the drama will start picking up soon.

We’re still in 1864. Episode 3 airs next Sunday.
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