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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)


Brad6,

Good to see you post! Hope you are well! I see that you got your original user name back. I sometimes got to sit down in front of the TV and catch part of the documentary programs on CCTV and thought of you, wondering if you are still enjoy watching these programs like you used to.

I too watched last nigh episode. I actually liked it a lot. Since SuperRooke may not have watched this episode yet, I will limit my post and not discussing in details. True, it was not a grand finale, rather an unceremonious one that does not fit for the Great King. I was glued to the screen till the end of episode. And I was very tired watching this, after a long day in LA, at Six Flags. I found the dialogues thoughtful, meaningful and philosophical. I have a new found appreciation for Lee Tae Gon, the actor. He remained focused till the end, an impressive focal point that the audience kept being drawn to, a true leading man, and I don't mean just his good looks. He maintained his onscreen appeal and statue even when the series were being dragged out and at times seemed disoriented with so many characters "MIA" unexplained, and all the chaotic of the behind the scenes politics.

I agreed with you about Feng Ba. His characters had been sly and self serving at times. On the hand, his character had been very loyal and focused. I believe he will follow Ko Un's path and will serve Ko Un well.

I am impressed with the generals who were still with Damdeok at the end. These actors/actresses too were very focused despite working in less than desirable circumstances, and it must have been hard throughout the bitter winter in rugged terrain. At the end when they appeared with Damdeok, they were like his family, they shared his philosophy, gentleness, and caring for the people. I thought the series ended well.

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I enjoyed the last episode as well--not that much of a let down, imo. After all, what can you add to the story after Damdoek, the Emperor, wins all--I mean "all"--the marbles. And to wrap things up, I was also impressed with SeolJi's heart-to-heart talk with GoUn. That was a good scene to help heal all those past wounds.
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Hi MKana,

Yes I have been watchhng ldrama right along. I think I must not make my posts after midnight anymore. I get ready for sleep and then I get fast and hasty with my bitching and moaning. I really did enjoy Great G. very much. I was just not happy with the changes they had to make in the latter episodes because of the strike and using money. I personally thought they would have kept to this drama till the end and cut out some of the weaker dramas which seem so thin to me. there I go again.
I have admired Lee Tae Gon for quite some time. I think he was made to do this role and I agree that he was a superb leader. I read somewhere that they found a huge stele in China which has a lot of carving all about him and his time. It apparently has been covered up for eons and only now receiving some recognition. I think it is because it is in China and therefore not so immediate to their history. I wonder if it is also near Beijing.
Right now, as well as kdramas I am watching the Japanese taiga Taira Kiyomori. Very slow going in the first episodes. Very interesting about the Heian era which is quite new to me.
Loving Equator Man. I think you would like that one also.
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Brad6,

You wrote "...Loving Equator Man. I think you would like that one also." I smiled reading this. I was going to watch this because of Lee Jun Hyuk, but then one look at the poster and trailer; I stopped, and said oh no, the evil one is the adorable Lee Jun Hyuk. You see I adored him in Three Brothers more so than Oh Ji Eun and I am a fan of OJE, though not until Smile Dong Hae. So there, I missed a good show because of some thing silly like that. Also I did not have a lot time in my schedule, although I would have made time for LJH in a more lovable role. emoticon
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Great to see posts and opinions from Peg, TaeWang PyeHa, MKana! This discussion would not be complete without Kittypaws though.

On the question of Fengba, he survived since in real life, after Ko Un's (in real life Gao Yun) two year reign, Ko Un was assassinated... to which Fengba assumed the throne and held it for 21 years until his death. Once his brother took over though, all of Fengba's over 100 sons were all executed by their uncle... frightening times for royals back then. emoticon

Anyway, onto the final episode.

You all took the words out of my mouth! I agreed with Peg in that the first half of the episode in particular was average and indicative of what I have been posting about in my episode thoughts/views of the last 20-30 episodes and my disappointments on what has happened to this series. After the Baekje arc with what happened to Sagal, and some of the scenes after that, the series just kept losing steam with the disappearing characters and seeming budget cuts with lack of great outdoor scenes and battles, with too much sitting around the table...). The final battle in the episode was disappointing and anticlimactic, there was no great battle like we had seen in the earlier episodes.

The second half of the final episode got much better for me with the duel between Damdeok and Ko Un, Ko Un's capture, the conversation between Seol Ji and Ko Un as well as the one with Ko Un and Damdeok. It might not have been totally believable with the generosity displayed, but it sure made for a heart-warming ending. Well stated, MKana and TaeWang PyeHa.

I loved the parts where Damdeok talked about dreaming his dream for his people, it was infectious for us as viewers, as well as Ko Un and all around him. The celebratory finale as Damdeok and his generals rode back to the Goguryeo capital with the commoners to celebrate his accomplishments. And then the final scene, we see the older and regal Damdeok as we saw in the intro, with him looking very much like a King - using a huge calligraphy brush on the paper beneath him... the flashbacks of all the moments we had seen from the start to the end of this series made me miss all the great portions of this series that was lacking towards the end...

An Epic series that has left me wanting on what could have been if the last 20-30 episodes had more substance and the potency of the first 60, and not to mention the problems with the MIA characters and story plot holes (what happened to the Queen that was never mentioned or Gwanggaeto's heir?)... I guess nevermind about the important son who was the one who had built the Stele that we saw time and time again at the opening and end of this series for almost a year. LOL!

Still, despite its flaws, it was a good series with a long and epic storyline, and certainly it's been a very interesting journey in the viewing and the great discussions we have had in this thread. There's nothing like long and grand KBS Historical drama.

The Dae Jo Young connection with Gwanggaeto Stele

Since many visitors of this forum saw KBS' Dae Jo Young several years ago, now the ending of that series is more relevant now that we have seen Gwanggaeto! In that series, Dae Jo Young visits the Gwanggaeto Stele... and there's Seokgae too... and a lot of familiar faces from Gwanggaeto! LOL emoticon The YouTube video transfer of this series is kinda bad, but it's good enough to get an impression. But the other connection is, the lead hero of DJY will be the star of the next KBS Historical Drama series later this fall, when Choi Soo Jong returns!

YouTube embed below: (The Stele scene is around 50 seconds in) Warning Note: The video below is the final scene of the final episode of Dae Jo Young



What's next?

The next Historical Drama with Choi Soo Jong, King's Dream (Dream of a Great King) will tentatively begin in Korea on Sept. 1. I've been reading some Korean news blogs and it's looking quite good so far with the filming having just begun recently. I can't wait! Based on that, the next series will likely start sometime in October here on KBS America/KBS World. On KBS World/America, until then, the slot will be taken with Special Dramas and documentaries or variety/talk shows.

In the meantime, on MBC Digital, in 2 weeks, begins Soldier (God of War) one of the most critically acclaimed K-Dramas (of any genre) in many a year, even hardcore historical drama fans who are very particular about historical accuracy are raving about this one... the production values look very good. It's a continuation (but stand alone series) of the older popular KBS series, Age of Warriors. I hope to see some of you join in the discussions when it begins! I'll be creating the thread sometime next week.


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MKana.
Must say that my heart sank a little when I read your post and thought maybe you would not have time to set aside to see Equator Man. If you possibly can do so I urge you to watch this drama. It is one of the better ones to come along in the past few months. I have never seen a story about such vengeance from a whole cast of characters which has such deep feelings which mostly do not have gangsters and guns etc etc. The violence at the beginning is physical and thoughtless and is always the reason for the continuing desire for aforesaid vengeance. It is quite a mystery story with a pleasant romance which will eventually evolve once again from the early days.Your admiration for that actor is well placed. However, even if he is sort of one of the bad guys, you still would be full of that admiration. He is so good in this role.
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Dae Jo Young was a favourite of mine. Korean character is based on very fierce ancestors for sure.

I am still curious about that stele. Why is it not given more publicity even tho it is in China now. It was discovered by chance but it is still standing. It should be a place for historians I would think.

It does not diminish China in any way. It is too far back in history for that.

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Dae Jo Yojung was a favourite of mine. Korean character is based on very fierce ancestors for sure.

I am still curious about that stele. Why is it not given more publicity even tho it is in China now. It was discovered by chance but it is still standing. It should be a place for historians I would think.

It does not diminish China in any way. It is too far back in history for that.
I would say this about the stele--it is indeed famous to Chinese, Japanese and Korean scholars alike. It is somewhat controversial in some respects, but is known to be modern scholarship's only record of Gwanggaeto the Great. There is a nice article about it on Wikipedia, and an examination of some of the one controversial passage contained on it. Go there and see what you think.

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SuperRookie: I'm sure you read the same article that I did, and so I would split hairs with you on only one point about GoUn and FengBa. I think it's more accurate to say that GoUn was the last emperor of the Later Yan (or HouYan as we know it), and that with his death, ended that dynasty, with Fengba becoming emperor of the Northern Yan, which contended with the Northern Wei (or Beiwei in our Gwanggaeto series) for territorial control of that region. There is no doubt that the demise of the Houyan dynasty was a direct result of its defeat at the hands of Gwanggaeto and the Goguryeo armies, however, so whether GoUn was the last emperor of the Houyan or the first emperor of the Northern Yan is a moot point. It's not all neat and tidy as we would like, where one dynasty ends and the next one begins.

Just to add a relevant postscript: My wife is already watching "Soldier (MuSin)" and highly recommends it. I haven't started it, however. Too much involved with "Lights and Shadows" and the end of "Moon...Sun".

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I have been very interested in reading the posts of all you history buffs and have to say your comments have certainly enriched my understanding of this drama. I have enjoyed King G very much and stuck with it to the end, in part because of the strength Lee Tae Gon brought to the role, in addition to being easy on the eyes. He just looked and acted like a king should.

I love the final speeches that make me proud to be Korean even though I am not. It was mentioned once that these historical dramas are popular because they dramatize the old history of Korea that may not be well known to all. Unlike America, that has only 200 years of history to learn, Korea has at least two thousand years and many different dynasties to learn.

I was almost expecting to see Damdeok's wife and heir also come out to meet him but they were probably not even on set as they appear to have been written off long ago. Is it even known if he was succeeded by a son or possibly by Damju's boy? I'm surprised that General Fengba turned out okay in real history. I never thought he would.

Dae Jo Young will always remain my favorite historical drama, but King G ranks high, too. The other is Admiral Yi Soon Shin, which really pulled me in to watching Korean dramas.

Thank you, SuperRookie, for the embed of DJY Episode 134. It helped me to find my most favorite scene from DJY on You Tube. . .when I saw yours was Ep. 134-4, I realized I needed to put 134-3 to find where DJY and Geom finally acknowledge each other as father and son. When I first saw it, It made me realize what excellent actors we are watching in these dramas. And of course, I appropriately sobbed again watching 134-3 tonight. I am sending you a PM with a technical question, though.

My only wish for the pending Dream of a Great King with Choi Su Jong is very superficial. When it was announced a couple months ago and he appeared in news clips, he had the ugliest hair--partially long with stupid bangs--and I pray he isn't going to look like that through the series! emoticon Hopefully, it is just the growing-in stage.

I can't thank all of you enough for pointing out info in your interesting posts. I miss things sometimes and you really fill in the gaps, all of you. I hope all of you come back for Dream of a Great King.






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