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Re: K-Drama: 가시나무새 (The Thorn Birds)


Oh! Looks like tonight is the night we'll be returning to the present time--beginning w/ the scene we originally saw at the opening of EP 1.

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Re: K-Drama: 가시나무새 (The Thorn Birds)


sorry, creidesca..
KW's scene is in ep.11
I forget the time difference...

Agree with you, creidesca...
What YJ felt for YK is not love, but merely rejection feelings.. He still can not accept the reason YK break up with him. The reason is not clear..
And he still keep that feeling for 6 long years.. What a waste..

There was a scene somewhere in previous episode where YJ and YK act as a lover after everyone on the office is gone. So, the relationships is not cool enough.. They were dating secretly after work.. So, there is follow up after that one night stand. Afterall, YK has already said about her family background. The full detailed of their relationships was not showned in the drama.

For 6 years YJ and JE has been living together.. Nothing happens..
But suddenly YJ wants to date JE... Because of KW's word(the main trigger)...
It is dissapointing. It doesn't happen because of YJ's own will.

What bothers me the most is,
If YJ can give his broken heart to YK,
WHY can't JE give just a little space for KW?
(If the real reason is because of JE still thinks about the little boy that bought her noodle...
Come on, JE.. Grow up....
I really want to show her that the boy is not the same boy before.. The boy is having one night stand with YK... And believe it or not, JE herselves trigger the one night stand... She really is a naive girl.. tell that the little boy is YJ to YK-the woman who hates her so much... The stupidest things she has done... Causing all of this complicated love triangle.. )

Instead of giving her heart to KW, she'd rather gave an alibi (AIGOO....):
a. She has a boyfriend
b. She will be married soon
c. She has a baby
At least, when KW said that he regretted, JE has that shocked face when she truly realized that KW loves her for real, still placed her in his heart.. and a special place indeed... emoticon At that moment, i felt that JE's heart was touched.. emoticon

Personally, if YJ really has to end with YJ, i will be relieved if the reason is love.
Not because he needs somebody..

the answer for the questions on ep. 1 will be revealed on ep.12...
Finally, the secrets will revealed.
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class blockquote woodstocks wrote:
 There was a scene somewhere in previous episode where YJ and YK act as a lover after everyone on the office is gone. So, the relationships is not cool enough.. They were dating secretly after work.. So, there is follow up after that one night stand. Afterall, YK has already said about her family background. The full detailed of their relationships was not showned in the drama.
Development of their " secret relationship" began the night YK called him, acting like the jealous GF (this was soon after YJ's Grandpa passed away). The next time YK & JE meet, where YK leads JE to believe Seo Jin is the girl YJ was dating, much time has passed since that day was the filming of the last scenes to the movie "To My Beloved Daughter". class blockquote For 6 years YJ and JE has been living together.. Nothing happens..
But suddenly YJ wants to date JE... Because of KW's word(the main trigger)...
It is dissapointing. It doesn't happen because of YJ's own will.
Actually something else is even more disappointing, but YJ had not completely healed when it comes to YK. Besides keeping his promise to YK to keep their relationship a secret, he also doesn't speak directly of her--wanting to forget her from his mind. JE knows his mind (even if she didn't know who the girl was), and doesn't make herself be a further burden (pretty much like KW when it comes to JE). class blockquote What bothers me the most is,
If YJ can give his broken heart to YK,
WHY can't JE give just a little space for KW?
(If the real reason is because of JE still thinks about the little boy that bought her noodle...
Come on, JE.. Grow up....
I really want to show her that the boy is not the same boy before.. The boy is having one night stand with YK... And believe it or not, JE herselves trigger the one night stand... She really is a naive girl.. tell that the little boy is YJ to YK-the woman who hates her so much... The stupidest things she has done... Causing all of this complicated love triangle.. )
I am actually happy JE is not being reliant on KW. Most K-dramas we will see the girl waver b/w 2 guys, going back and forth. Because of their childhood past, JE would like YJ to be happy. Until he is happy--even if the girl he chooses is not her, will she be able to move on.

Earlier I mentioned that something else was more disappointing than nothing developing b/w YJ & JE. What that is is that YJ doesn't seem to know JE's mind like KW does. Thus why YJ had to quickly make a move when KW reappears. Afterall, Auntie and MJ have been pushing him and JE together and now have gone to the point of telling him he should move out (in a joking way that embarrassed both YJ & JE). JE then tells him that he should move out too---the neighborhood doesn't fit his expensive car image. Notice how he purposely says to KW that he and JE were living in the same household, prompting the slug from KW. This was before KW's words in the bar scene.

I think what is scary is that because of any fears he has due to the disastrous relationship w/ YK, YJ is only choosing JE because of Han Byul, or rather the set of 3--MJ, Han Byul, and JE--to complete that family he has always wanted.

Translation of the lyrics to the song we heard in the "practice proposal" scene of YJ towards JE, credits to dramaok:

Narsha (of Brown Eyed Girls) - "A Woman You Know" (아는 여자 - 나르샤)

알고 있나요? 그대 보고싶어 종일 기다린 나죠.
그저 가벼운 인사란 걸 알면서 그대의 뒷모습을 보면 다시 서운해지죠.

Do you know this? I'm the one who waits all day, hoping to see you.
Though I know it's only a courtesy hi, when I watch you leave, I'm saddened again.

듣고 있나요? 그댄 모르죠... 난 그저 그대의 아는 여자죠.
그대 왜 날 못 봐요? 언제나 내가 바라보는 곳 그대밖에 없는데...

Are you listening? You must not know since I am just a woman you know.
Why are you unable to see me? When you're always the only one I look toward.

차라리 내게 잘해주지 마요. 그게 난 더 아파요.
애써 그대를 잊으려는 다짐도 다정한 그 미소에, 그 말투에 난 또 무너져.

Please just don't be nice to me at all. Because that aches me more.
Though I labor to forget you, as I pledge myself, your tender smile and words crumble me yet again.

듣고 있나요? 그댄 모르죠... 난 그저 그대의 아는 여자죠.
그대 왜 날 못 봐요? 언제나 내가 바라보는 곳 그대밖에 없는데...

Are you listening? You must not know since I'm just a woman you know.
Why are you unable to see me? When you're always the only one I look toward.

그대 나를 보세요. 나의 맘을 보세요. 누구보다 그댈 원하는 사람 나인데...

Please look at me. Please look at my heart. Because I'm the one who desires you more than anyone else.

듣고있나요? 그댄 모르죠 난 그저 그대와 가까운 거죠
그대 왜 날 못봐요? 언제나 내가 바라보는 곳 그대 밖에 없는데

Are you listening? You must not know since I'm just a close acquaintance.
Why are you unable to see me? When you're always the only one I look toward.

느껴지나요? 내가 있어요 언제나 나 바람 그대뿐인데
그대 알고 있나요 나의 하루를 채우는 사람 오직 그대라는 것.

Do you feel it? I exist. You are always the only one I wish for.
Do you know this? You're the only one who fills up my day.

언제나 내 눈엔 오직 그대만 있죠
Always, in my eyes, there is only you.



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Creidesca:
I am actually happy JE is not being reliant on KW. Most K-dramas we will see the girl waver b/w 2 guys, going back and forth. Because of their childhood past, JE would like YJ to be happy. Until he is happy--even if the girl he chooses is not her, will she be able to move on.

I wish that JE will never be in that situations, waver with 2 guys...
What i mean is, just give KW a chance and then move on..

There is a one sided love for most of the character:
JE to YJ
KW to JE
YJ to YK... (still not sure about YK's feeling...)

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class blockquote woodstocks wrote:
I wish that JE will never be in that situations, waver with 2 guys...
What i mean is, just give KW a chance and then move on..
And give us, the audience, a sense of false hope? class blockquote There is a one sided love for most of the character:
JE to YJ
KW to JE
YJ to YK... (still not sure about YK's feeling...)
Let's just see how YJ reacts when he sees/speaks to YK.

Gosh, understanding what the song was talking about and then going back and rewatching the scene just gives me a heavy heart. When will YJ see and/or understand JE like KW does?

I love, love the scene where KW dashes to the outdoors film location only to find that JE is playing the bit part of a corpse lying in cold muddy waters! The concern--why can't YJ act that way towards JE? KW is always naturally a dashing guy compared to YJ, isn't he? Heh, and he got to touch her leg when he was attempting to warm it. At least that is one thing he has a one up on YJ.



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what do you mean a sense of false hope, creidesca?

This is just an opinion...
I've read some comment for the drama...
There are audience that vote for KW and there are also audience that vote for YJ..
All of that occured because there is no chemistry between YJ and JE..

The way YJ treats JE is so different with the way YJ treats YK...
More like formality, not much affection, only words..
(AIGOO... the past really is haunting YJ. He have to move on soon... Otherwise, it will be very dissapointing for the audience.)
That's why, personally, now after seeing more episodes, KW is a betterman indeed...
(JE really is his everything for KW... such as figured in the soundtrack My everything...
Sadly, all that has been said in the lyrics really makes our heart heavy)

Hoping that the next episode will be better...
Because JE deserves a betterman...
 
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class blockquote woodstocks wrote:
what do you mean a sense of false hope, creidesca?
False sense of hope because you said to give KW a chance, then move on!

No matter how much I would like to see a KW-JE pairing, unless YJ makes a decision and act upon it, will JE know what she must do. And no point in giving KW any hopes till then, because wouldn't that just hurt their already great relationship? KW & JE are just so comfortable with each other. I certainly don't want to see KW end up like his father--bitter and hungering for power just because YJ's mom rejected him for her first husband, then for YJ's father.

Actually, what I want is to see JE happy--it's her choice, her decision. Whatever route she takes, she doesn't regret it, even if to us we feel she's making a sacrifice or just being a fool.



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A week behind, just saw last week's episodes on DVR and this series is getting better and better.

Interesting discussion and viewpoints!

I particularly enjoyed the two exciting endings in last week's pair of episodes.

My favorite moments centered around JE and finding out of the return of YK, and the feelings of dread and fear of potentially losing her now daughter. What made the event most rewarding was her opening up to Aerin, and Aerin's stalwart statement of JE being both her daughter and the mother of YK's child. It was also nice to see Aerin in better shape; JE was able to pull both herself and Aerin out of the dumps and now both have managed to create a loving relationship and family (as we saw when Aerin defended JE to her sister in law's criticisms). It will be most interested to see if this relationship holds or if somehow YK will be able to win some kind of love from Aerin at a later time.

YK was once again sickening, now that JE is finally trying to get out of the hole she was in, in terms of her career, YK once again is the stumbling block and is using what happened before as a reason not to hire JE... YK is truly shameless and even after all her time away has not an ounce of sorrow for her manipulations.

I can't wait to see how the truth will unravel though, will JE find out YJ is the father first or will he?

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I think JE got on Auntie's good side when she showed Auntie that she could be even stingier than Auntie (over the household expenses)! emoticon It was hilarious the scene where Hak Gu comes out of the kitchen to tell his father and YJ that bit of news.

Hak Gu has much love for this "cousin" of his. He's always singing that "Saranghae Noona" song. And remember the time when JE (still working at the clothes shop) was trying to find more info about him and his family and he thought she was interested in dating him?

Though "nothing" happened b/w JE & YJ during the 6yrs they have been living in the same household, while on the beach in EP 10, a passerby mistook them for a husband & wife because of the way they were bickering.

It makes me wonder...would YK have even thought of her child or Myung Ja if she hadn't keep running into JE?

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Seeing one advance of YJ :
YJ said to YK that he will forget the past and move on.
(Hoping that this is not words only, but truly applicable in YJ's life..)

When YJ said to JE that he like her and everything she has,
it's really a little dissapointing, just as you said, creidesca,
YJ like the set (JE,Myeongja,Hanbyeol) as one family...

I really wish that someday, YJ will say the love thing to JE..
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