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class blockquote woodstocks wrote:
Love it when YJ rip the boarding pass in front of YK and said he do that because he thinks it's cool... emoticon
Sadly, the motivation isn't for himself, but because of YK. He tried to forget her during the 6months, but hasn't.

And I'm sure JE will tell YK's mom everything. She didn't lie when she told Myung Ja that the woman in the portrait was her birth mom. She couldn't lie, not when it comes to her birth mom. This girl wanted to do so many things together with her and never got the chance. And she must start her relationship with Myung Ja on trust, not more lies.


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And i really hope the truth will reveals soon to YJ too.. so that he can feel guilt for accusing JE...
(sometimes i feel that JE is such a fool for letting people insult her for something that someone else do..)

Myeongja will be someone that JE trust from now on.. Finally, she can share the burden.
Start a relationship with the REAL TRUTH...
(that's why Myeongja is shock because deep in her heart she knows that JE is a nice and innocent woman, it's impossible to do the upload things.)
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And i really hope the truth will reveals soon to YJ too.. so that he can feel guilt for accusing JE...
(sometimes i feel that JE is such a fool for letting people insult her for something that someone else do..)
 
You know what irks me the most about YJ at the moment? How can he believe JE was capable of doing such a deed--ruining Lee Ae Rin's career as a revenge for the mother abandoning the daughter.

While watching the BBC drama series Lewis, DI Lewis asks an old man: How do you trust someone you don't really know? The man's answer: You trust what you really know about them.

How can he believe YK's word when JE had told him previously that there were many things she would like to do together w/ her own mother? What has she done that would make him believe YK's word over JE's?

The guy is an idiot--blinded by wanting to make a family of his own. He actually thought he was all that--an MBA from Harvard? Yea, that will get you through life. He's so clueless not to realize that his half-brother by a different mother is out to get him--the guy hates his guts, likely because YJ monopolized his grandpa's time and got daddy all to himself before daddy's death.



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You know what irks me the most about YJ at the moment? How can he believe JE was capable of doing such a deed--ruining Lee Ae Rin's career as a revenge for the mother abandoning the daughter.

Yeah, it is the worst moment ever...
I also thought that YJ is clever, he already said that he can't believe YK's word because he saw JE fainted after seeing the video... But he believe YK's word at the end... What i think is YK's word is NOT LOGICAL at all... How on earth JE can upload the video and fainted after doing that?? (YJ has blinded by his love towards YK and forget all the evidence..)

It is sad that even YJ didn't give JE just a few minutes to explain all of that...
I am not sure what is the reason JE keep all of it by herselves.
Maybe because she feels sorry for YK because YK is pregnant at that time..
JE is really shocked because of what YJ said to her... ( mean words indeed)
She even throw away all of her dreams because of that words..

If only YJ realized that he has ruined JE's life for a few years....
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Finally caught up with last week's and this week's episodes 6-9.

I must say, JE is just either an incredibly kind and naive person, or ... I don't know what she is. emoticon Her decency as a human being is admirable, as is her sympathy for YK's plight, having experienced it first hand, as well as her own pain of growing up an orphan, and now recently losing her mother who she never got to know... but, I can't believe how she is letting YK run roughshod over her; first accepting the blame for YK's video stunt which destroyed her career... and yet she won't speak up for herself all the while YK is doing well for herself in her career... but to a much greater degree, allowing YK to use her name as the child's official mother and now being saddled with all the responsibility this all entails.

Is it truly so easy to use someone's ID in Korea where identity theft is so easily done by someone else? LOL The show makes it appear like all that is needed is someone's name and ID # to steal someone's identity and all the organizations involved with the baby's birth and adoption (Hospital, Adoption agency) ... are so easily accepting.

YK's antics have been despicable. I really don't like her. On top of all her lies and manipulation of JE, she also stole some of YJ's ideas and was awarded the $50,000 prize. She sure played up the sympathy card towards JE, making it sound like she was living in a shack pre-birth.

creidesca I agree with you with regards to YJ's inability to see things or people for who they are, (and I thought the people in Smile Donghae were dense, LOL!) re his family, YK and JE. His believing in all of YK's lies on the surface is a reflection of how hard he's fallen; I don't know if I believe it... he was playing the all cool card when their relationship first started, but then fell for her so fast and through to the airport scene, is totally hung up on her. I don't see what YK has done to make him love so much, but I guess as they say, Love is blind. emoticon

Thank goodness there's someone in this series with some brains. At the end of episode 9, Aerin puts two and two together and found the discrepancies in the stories of JE and YK. It looks like she might be onto that YK is her daughter. I can't wait for YJ to realize the baby in the house is actually his... what an ironic situation. The world truly is so very small in KDramas, with many of the key players of the storyline somehow ending up in the same house! emoticon

One of the little scenes and characters I've enjoyed as a light distraction to counter the dramatic and heaver storyline are the ones with YJ's other half brother. In episode 9, I liked the scene where he ran into JE's friend (his former girlfriend) and was hurt by getting dumped by her - promising to make her regret getting married to the other guy. I also liked the scene where he ran back to his (and YJ's) mom to ask to get a job. Her response about his attempts to straighten himself out through getting work so he can marry someone else was hilarious - how she wouldn't want to punish someone else by dumping a potential employee like him to them. LOL!

Looking forward to next week's episode after the Aerin cliffhanger - things are getting interesting.


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Here's what bothers me about all of this. YJ and YK had no relationship to speak of. There were no promises or rings exchanged or anything even resembling a commitment between them, so i don't get his being so in love with her all of a sudden. They were more like acquaintances, (not even friends), with benefits. All at once he can't live without her. There seems to be a glitch in the writing here.

The other thing that bothers me is that YK, in spite of being a disgusting, vile, evil woman, will wind up with him and her child at the end of this. She will have redeemed herself and become a Mother Theresa look-a-like. And JE the idiot will wish her well and go off with guy #2, even though she's in love with YJ.

I know that a lot of Kdrama depends on the triangle for interest and I live through it, though I find it unappealing to say the least. What bother me more than that is that a lot of the time they make one of the parties so clueless as to be a simpleton. Its really, really aggravating to watch JE being that stupid, as though she has no choice, but to allow YK run rough shod over her the way she does. This can make me stop watching this drama. Plus, the fact that I think YK will be with YJ in the end. emoticon

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class blockquote smoochie1 wrote:

Here's what bothers me about all of this. YJ and YK had no relationship to speak of. There were no promises or rings exchanged or anything even resembling a commitment between them, so i don't get his being so in love with her all of a sudden. They were more like acquaintances, (not even friends), with benefits. All at once he can't live without her. There seems to be a glitch in the writing here.

The other thing that bothers me is that YK, in spite of being a disgusting, vile, evil woman, will wind up with him and her child at the end of this. She will have redeemed herself and become a Mother Theresa look-a-like. And JE the idiot will wish her well and go off with guy #2, even though she's in love with YJ.

I know that a lot of Kdrama depends on the triangle for interest and I live through it, though I find it unappealing to say the least. What bother me more than that is that a lot of the time they make one of the parties so clueless as to be a simpleton. Its really, really aggravating to watch JE being that stupid, as though she has no choice, but to allow YK run rough shod over her the way she does. This can make me stop watching this drama. Plus, the fact that I think YK will be with YJ in the end. emoticon
Smoochie1, from your writing to my ear let hope this time the writer do what's right and have YJ and YK be the family that will be more stable and suited for the child. You cannot be a good mother showing up at the age of 10 or whatever and be a Mum you have to practice at it. That pouty girl is the worst so what if she redeems herself, that damage she created was done one lost a career, no relationship with her real mum whom she single handedly distroyed, the YK whom she seduces is as stupid as a Monk fish why love soeone like her. This is my only drawback with Kdramas, you are not a mum just because you gave birth. The person who raises you is your MUM blood or not Asian put a lot of credance on birth mothers why? They abandoned you for selfish reasons so now its thank you for raising my child give her back, where is my compensation? That is why YJ should keep her child. let miss pouty move to America.
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class blockquote SuperRookie wrote:
Is it truly so easy to use someone's ID in Korea where identity theft is so easily done by someone else? LOL The show makes it appear like all that is needed is someone's name and ID # to steal someone's identity and all the organizations involved with the baby's birth and adoption (Hospital, Adoption agency) ... are so easily accepting.
Let's see, YK gave birth to her daughter in 2005. I remember back then when I was really into watching K-dramas and visiting Korean message boards/websites, that when registering for a login, one of the requirements was to input in the person's Korean ID#. As long as the Korean ID# was valid, it was accepted. Someone even went as far as creating a Korean ID# generator program (since there is a formula to each digit in the Korean ID#). class blockquote She sure played up the sympathy card towards JE, making it sound like she was living in a shack pre-birth.I couldn't believe she would say that, especially when JE said she would help YK take care/babysit for the child while YK can continue with her career.

What is worse is she didn't breast-feed her child, didn't make a hard enough attempt to see her child just one time before she left the hospital. class blockquote creidesca I agree with you with regards to YJ's inability to see things or people for who they are, (and I thought the people in Smile Donghae were dense, LOL!) re his family, YK and JE. His believing in all of YK's lies on the surface is a reflection of how hard he's fallen; I don't know if I believe it... he was playing the all cool card when their relationship first started, but then fell for her so fast and through to the airport scene, is totally hung up on her. I don't see what YK has done to make him love so much, but I guess as they say, Love is blind. emoticonYJ was likely hung up on the idea of forming a family--and thought YK was the closest thing to realizing his dream. He fell for her words hard in EP 3--the night when YK learns that YJ was spending time JE and calls him, acting like the injured party. And there was a point in EP 4 or 5 I think, that while taking care of the sick YK, he divulges what his dreams were.

An official music video released for Lee So Ra's "That Person is Leaving" for the drama:




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Four things that make KW mesmerize :
a. KW said to JE : I regretted not stopping you that day... I won't lose you now..
    (wonder what will happen if KW really stopped JE that day.. maybe he'll become
     Hanbyeol's dad.. he.. JE's face is shocked, she didn't knew that KW came that day..)
b. KW make film scenario based on JE's life..
    JE truly is KW's inspiration... emoticon
c. KW said to YJ : I don't trust film. I trust people..
    (Finally, somebody trust JE because he knows that JE won't do such things..)
d. KW said to YJ : Think and decide quickly. Is affection of living together for 6 years greater
    than missing someone 6 years?
    (KW really love JE, he misses her and he's been looking for her also..)

Wishing that miracle comes to KW at the end of the drama.. emoticon
  
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class blockquote smoochie1 wrote:

Here's what bothers me about all of this. YJ and YK had no relationship to speak of. There were no promises or rings exchanged or anything even resembling a commitment between them, so i don't get his being so in love with her all of a sudden. They were more like acquaintances, (not even friends), with benefits. All at once he can't live without her. There seems to be a glitch in the writing here.
The night of the one-night stand was when YJ met his birth mom again, after 10 years of not seeing her. What hurts him more than his mother rejecting him as her son is the way she was leading her life. If YK hadn't meddled, YJ would have then be given the happy news from JE that she is the girl he knew back then.

Aren''t most guys attracted to girls who don't look too easy? YJ was surprised the morning after when YK requests that they keep their relationship cool. He was again surprised when YK gave her condolences upon hearing news that his grandpa (the only family he knew for sure that really cared for him) had passed.

Then he was touched by YK's words that one night after he had been spending time w/ JE. YK starts by asking what type of girl would his family accept. Then she speaks of her family background, knowing that she's not a match for him--knowing that she's not a match for him, yet she still fell for him.

And finally, when he took care of her while she was sick, it felt like he was a part of a family (he is not close to his Step-mom or his 1/2 brother by that mom--they hate him enough to want to take his inheritance away while Grandpa was still making his last breaths). He even divulges his innermost thoughts to her when she asks him what he really wanted to do (after he told her he must not really like movies, only that his Grandpa told him to do it, and that was what his father did):

Getting married, and creating a family. Become someone's husband. Become someone's Father. No matter what happens...making those people happy.

So, in conclusion, what YJ feels for YK was likely not love, but the fulfillment of a dream of his...pretty much like JE's dream of finding her birth mom, being able to go shopping with her, to go on a train together for a trip, buy long johns for her, to go to the karaoke house and the bathhouse with her... class blockquote The other thing that bothers me is that YK, in spite of being a disgusting, vile, evil woman, will wind up with him and her child at the end of this. She will have redeemed herself and become a Mother Theresa look-a-like. And JE the idiot will wish her well and go off with guy #2, even though she's in love with YJ.

I know that a lot of Kdrama depends on the triangle for interest and I live through it, though I find it unappealing to say the least. What bother me more than that is that a lot of the time they make one of the parties so clueless as to be a simpleton. Its really, really aggravating to watch JE being that stupid, as though she has no choice, but to allow YK run rough shod over her the way she does. This can make me stop watching this drama. Plus, the fact that I think YK will be with YJ in the end. emoticon
This will be a drama that is an exception to the case ^_^ (REALLY!)

woodstocks, you are getting ahead of us here...those scenes from those episodes haven't aired yet in SoCal--we're only on EP 11 tonight.

Mecca9, do all Asians put a lot of credence on birth mothers?

There is a saying in Vietnamese (would also apply to Chinese): Me nuôi lớn hơn mẹ ruột. This translates to: The sacrifices/what is done for the sake of the child by the adoptive mother (mẹ nuôi) is greater (lớn hơn) than that of the birth mother (mẹ ruột).

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