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Re: K-Drama: 사랑을 믿어요 (My Love, My Family)


Nsheldon, You're a week ahead of me, so I can only respond to what you said and not what I've seen, aside from what I saw in last night's episode.

First, I get why Donghun is so angry/hurt/unreasonable. He saw a moment of intimacy between his wife and another man that made his heart crumble. He knew at that moment that she'd never looked at him that way and probably never would. That would leave anyone heartsick and Donghun is heartsick, aside from his behaving badly. He's going on pure emotions right now and not making smart choices. The fact that they live with a bunch of other people leaves almost no room for them to fight it out or work it out. The fact that he didn't speak to his family about Hye Jin's infidelity is probably a good thing. I don't know how she'd be able to go back to that house if they knew.

Hye Jin for her part thinks she nothing wrong, but of course she did. She fed into Sung Wu's attraction to her. She may never have meant for it to go any further than the little passionate glances and intimate gazes, and that may have worked if her husband didn't witness it first hand. The only way she could have been innocent in all of this, was to leave her job, no matter how great a job it is, as soon as she recognized Sung Wu's intent.

I'm not interested in the soul mate theory. She'd have to leave her husband, her child and remove herself from the family in order to pursue a relationship with Sung Wu. I think she'd have to be passionately in love with him and I don't believe she is. Not to mention his wife, his father and all that that entails. I don't believe she'd do it.

I can understand her husband wanting her to quit the museum and I believe she should, if it could save her marriage. To tell her to stay home and be a housewife is a horse of a different color. The sad thing is Donghun didn't stop trusting her because he thinks she'll cheat on him. At this point I don't think its a matter of trust. I think he doesn't know how there could be a future for them as husband and wife, because he saw that she doesn't love him, and that's what he saw that night, when she saw her looking into Sung Wu's eyes so lovingly. He's feeling betrayed.

I figured out what bothered me about Ujin and Teach. I can't stand Teach! There I've said it! She's as annoying to me as she was in the beginning episodes when she was wailing every minute. I think Ujin is much to good for her and he should pursue other women. Of course he won't and if he does, he'll still wind up with this irritating person. Too bad.

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I pretty much don't care for anyone on this show. The only couple I can stand to watch (and this is recent) is Teach and Ujin. I actually am rooting for them. The rest of them make me mad.

Donghun asks Hyejin a question and she turns it around and asks him the same question. Neither will answer (I get really irked when characters refuse to answer questions). I DO think Hyejin loves her husband but she doesn't know she does. She admitted to her mother that she married him because she was grateful.

Tonight there was a really good conversation between Dad and Donghun. Dad sees Hyejin on the street so he knows she's not in Paris.

Dad & Donghun talk and Dad comes to the conclusion that Donghun didn't really love Hyejin. Donghun admits he was taken by her beauty and he felt sorry for her when he met her.

Donghun states how he 'let' her go to Paris and how he 'allows' her freedom because he was trying to make her happy. That didn't set well with me at all. Dad won't let Donghun put all the blame on Hyejin. He makes some good points and Donghun is seeing another side to his relationship with his wife.

Sungwu hasn't seen Hyejin in a long time and she sent him her resignation letter. Now I think he is afraid he's done something that will ruin her future in doing what she loves to do. I think he's in love with her the same way Donghun fell in love with her... on site. Except Sungwu and Hyejin would have made a happier couple (I really do believe this).

However, Sungwu cares enough to not want Hyejin to let go of the life she loves so much (working/museum/painting). He still plans to leave the country but I think he wants to try to fix things first.

Unfortunately, he goes to her friend (if she really is a friend) and pretty much admits his feelings for Hyejin and asks her to arrange it so he can meet Hyejin.

Hyejin admitted to Donghun that she was in the wrong but states she did nothing wrong (meaning going too far). She knows she was getting too close to Sungwu. But she is upset that Donghun refuses to work it out with her and she is embarrassed and humiliated that he threw her out of the house. It didn't just hurt her... it hurt her entire family.



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Ep. 36 (Sun)

Looks like both Ujin and Yunhui are taking separate paths for a while. He‛s meeting Jisu, his long-time friend from the States (very attractive and likes him), while Yunhui is reluctantly going along with the blind date guy, a PE teacher who seems like a nice guy, but ordinary compared with Ujin.

Poor Donghun is finding himself more and more wedged between a rock and a hard place. His dad is putting pressure on him to have Hyejin call home "from Paris"—MIL is upset by being ignored.

Cheolsu comes home after 10 days, hires a new cook and cashier. Looks like he‛s moving on to his new career, while leaving Cheolsuk in charge of their mother‛s café. He collects together all his official ID documents and leaves with them without telling his sister what he‛s doing. Meanwhile, Myeonghui is acting very bored and despondent while out with the BF from H. He acts so spoiled and treats her so rudely that she finally feels the difference between him and Cheolsu.

Hyejin meets with Donghun in a café. She has hatred in her eyes. If he keeps up with this situation she‛s going to end up blaming him more than she does her own actions. Then she slides an envelope over to him and leaves, telling him since this is what he wants, he can turn it in. Sounds like she‛s filled out and signed a divorce application. Donghun isn‛t expecting this. The consequences of his actions don‛t seem to be what he expected or wants.

Dad calls home—he‛ll be having dinner with some former students who have opened a new restaurant. Deleted: As Dad is approaching the restaurant, he sees Hyejin walking in front of him—on her way home from meeting Donghun. She stops to talk with a shopkeeper and Dad clearly sees it is Hyejin.

Hyejin sends her resignation to Sungwu. He meets with her rich friend, since Hyejin won‛t answer or return his calls. The friend asks him if he‛s in love with Hyejin. He doesn‛t deny it, but feels guilty that she is having trouble in her family and fears he is the cause. (The friend already knows of the rumors about Hyejin and Sungwu) Sungwu asks the friend to help him meet with Hyejin. He wants to clear up the trouble she‛s having, then he will leave for Paris.

Deleted... class ul Hyejin drinks at a tent bar. Her mother suddenly enters. I don‛t know the conversation, but Mom is more reasonable and understanding than she was previously. Does Hyejin say she didn‛t cheat on Donghun? It seems she says something about not being able to return to the family and not wanting to pretend everything is okay and happy? Mom gets worked up and seems to want her daughter to grovel her way back in with her in-laws. Does Hyejin then tell her mother that there are divorce papers? At the same time across town, Donghae is drinking in a tent bar, too.Donghun‛s father waits for him outside in the swing and starts asking questions. Donghun puts on a phony act. Dad hits him with the fact he saw Hyejin earlier. Dad calls him a "fool." Donghun says he‛s done everything he could to cater to Hyejin, hoping she would satisfy her educational longing then give her attentions to the family. He is disappointed that her career and ambitions are so important to her. Dad tells him it isn‛t love to give with the motive of wanting and expecting something in return. Dad tells him that he does not understand or know his wife, her passions in life. Then Dad asks Donghun why he married Hyejin? She was the most beautiful woman he had seen and he felt sorry for her, wanting to help her. Dad‛s reply is self-revealing: My son made the mistake that all men make. Donghun stares at his father's downcast face, realizing his father has lived through the same circumstance, too.

As Myeonghui tries to hail a cab, she sees Cheolsu driving by in a red convertible, looking all cool and upscale. On the phone, he doesn‛t notice her. Her mouth hangs open as she stares at him driving on down the street.

At school, the PE Teacher picks up Yunhui for a date to a ballgame. The boys see this, with Pilyong having a fit that his woman has a boyfriend, a buff dude with a nice car. Ujin is upset at hearing the news, but there‛s nothing to do.

Hwayoung brings Jisu home for tea and dinner, sizing her up as a future DIL. Jisu‛s father is a professor, the mother a doctor (or the other way around?). Ujin comes home and spends some comfortable time with his old friend. Later, as Ujin walks Jisu to get a taxi, Teach is coming home from the baseball game. She sees Ujin with his arm around Jisu‛s neck, which Ujin withdraws at the sight of Yunhui. Both are in a state of shock. Yunhui silently goes inside her gate. Jisu wonders what‛s going on. The episode ends with Yunhui depressed and about to get into bed when she receives a phone call from her uncle (a bio-relative), who has been looking for her.
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I get irritated with the Teach too. She is so childish and immature. Too bad Ujin is falling for her.
If I were Hyejin, I'll never go back to live with the in-laws. They don't like her especially the MIL. Grandma makes more sense sometimes and even Dad.
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A few items from episode 36.

My impression is that the envelope Hyejin hands to Donghun is her letter of resignation from the art gallery. She tells him "This is what you want so you hand it in." Just a scene or 2 later one of the assistants at the gallery is handing what looks like the same style of envelope to the director, and then a scene or so later he is telling Hyejin's "friend" that she "sent a letter of resignation by post today."

Deleted scene from Episode 36:
H = Hyejin and M = Hyejin's mother [drinking at tent bar]

H - Mom, do you want to drink too?
M - [sighs] Stop ignoring me. Tell me. What's wrong?
H - Nothing.
M - Then why did you get thrown out?
H - I didn't get thrown out.
M - Then did you want to leave?
H - Mom.
M - I know you better than anyone else. I trust you. But how did things get this far? Why did he misunderstand you?
H - [drinks] I don't know. Yes, it's my fault. I told him I'm sorry he misunderstood. Shouldn't he forgive me? Shouldn't he trust me? He's my husband. I don't think I love him anymore.
M - Don't say that. Do you know what kind of man he is?
H - Do you know? Do you really know? Have you lived with him?
M - Do I have to live with him to know that?
H - Some things can't be realized unless you live with them. What kind of person he is. He may seem wonderful in other people's eyes. But some parts can't be realized unless you've lived with him.
M - Okay. You lived with him. You tell me about it. What don't you like about him? What's so hard?
H - He's not right for me. He's frustrating. For him, his family always comes first.
M - What's not right?
H - He doesn't listen carefully to anything that I tell him. All he ever does is laugh [she says ha ha ha here; wasn't in the subs]. Even if we watch a movie or view a painting. [ha ha ha] Even if we go out to eat. He's just a good man, a good son. He lives for his family. I'm so lonely. Sometimes he feels like a home appliance with no feelings, just running around in front of me. I feel so lonely in that house.
M - An appliance? You have no idea how lucky you are. Some women get beaten at home. Their husbands cheat, gamble and drink. You have only to look as far as your own mother. How dare you say that Donghun is like a home appliance? He sent you to study, looked after your child, and waited for you. You should be grateful. Don't complain about being lonely. You're raising a child. You don't have time to be lonely.
H - See? Even you don't know how I feel. Let's stop talking. Just drink.
M - Why did you marry Donghun then? If you're not compatible, why did you marry him?
H - Because I was grateful to him. At the lowest point of my life he helped me and was next to me. I was grateful, that's why.
[Mom sighs & Hyejin drinks up here and sad music is playing]
M - You're still so young. You've lived together for 10 years, and had a child. But you still have so much to learn Hyejin. What should I do with you?
[H drinks, Mom sighs and cuts to scene with Donghun drinking in another tent bar]

I have to say that despite how frustrating following this couple has been for me (and I sense for many others here), I am really appreciating the artful symmetry of the storylines in this episode - Hyejin telling her Mom that she married Donghun because she was grateful. Donghun telling his Dad that he married her because she was beautiful and he felt sorry for her. Maybe that symmetry is common to K dramas, but being fairly new to them I'm just getting it.

There was other symmetry in last night's (Ep. 36) in the Ujin and Yunhui storyline. Ujin meets his old friend Jisu for breakfast, and Yunhui is on the phone with blind date guy (PE teacher) talking about breakfast. Pilyong tells the group (with Ujin in room) that blind date guy had his arm around Yunhui, and don't Ujin & Yunhui run into each other when Ujin has his arm around Jisu's neck. Lovely symmetry. Yes, I am trying to find something positive to appreciate as my favorite couple (Ujin & Yunhui) are going through this angst. Bottom line for me - Jisu and PE teacher have to go!
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I get irritated with the Teach too. She is so childish and immature. Too bad Ujin is falling for her.
If I were Hyejin, I'll never go back to live with the in-laws. They don't like her especially the MIL. Grandma makes more sense sometimes and even Dad.
Thou she is their DIL, would you like someone like her who does not smile, who always look sad even to her husband? She is a miserable SOD! I do not have much to say of her, she is like a century, stoic and bland, immotionless. Why do they call what Hyejin an affair, when nothing truly happend?

The MIL is someone I cannot tolerate or her daughter and that step daughter, that BF of the second daughter will abuse her and who will she run to then, she hurt the pork restaurant guy, she is as shallow and superficial as the pain she will have to endure.

Teach, she makes me want to hurl, forever crying, do and say the silliest of thing, when are they going to make her mature? Ujin mother isn't she a tad bit late to start being a Mum? She ignored him ll his grown up life, Ujin only returned home for the father, so why is she interferring? he will leave when he finds out what she did to stupid teach, thou I feel he already know.
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Thanks so much for the deleted scene transcription, Kdfancier. Excellent, as usual. Hearing Hyejin's true feelings and explanation was so important to the story. Thanks again for sharing that critical conversation.

On the envelope, I think you are correct, that it was Hyejin's resignation she gave to Donghun. The thought never occurred to me that she would actually give in to him and resign. I am glad, though, that she gave it to Donghun to take care of, since he's the one forcing the issue. Now it makes more sense to me that she said if he keeps up this behavior she will end up blaming him more than she will be feeling regret for her own actions.

Very good point about the symmetry going on in the script. I especially noticed it in Sunday's episode, but primarily in Ujin & Yunhui dating others and in Hyejin & Donghun's mother and father confronting them with the idea that neither of them is showing love and appreciating their spouse for what they are as individuals. Both want the other to be something other than what they are. But I missed all the other connections that you caught, Kdfancier.

As for this drama as a whole, I'm finally into it, enjoying most of the characters. Have to admit that I keep the mute button handy for Donghun's mother and sometimes a couple others. But I've always liked Ujin, the boys from school, Cheolsu, and Granny. I'm even beginning (finally) to like Myeonghui, now that she's putting her mind in gear. I understand Hyejin and have empathy for her. I like Sungwu, too. Donghun is okay but, like Hyejin, he would drive me crazy with his complacent shallowness.

I also really enjoy some of the little touches the writers put into this one. Like when Cheolsu was driving by Myeonghui so slowly in his red convertible, the background music something like a John Williams theme of a grand warrior passing by. That was a good one.
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Donghun's logic makes absolutely no sense. He has not really tried to talk to Hyejin except to tell her he is hurt and has become distrustful of her and her motives. In the conversation with his father, he just seemed very shallow when it concerned his relationship with Hyejin. He sounded foolish and without any understanding of a woman he had been married to for 10 years.

Sungwu appears just as shallow and is being driven by physical attraction, and the fact Hyejin is at this time untouchable fruit.

I agree with the comments about Teach as far as her unattractiveness as a character. In fact, most of the characters are not very appealing or interesting with the exception of Donghun's father and the grandmother.
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I like Ujin's father. The character he plays is so atypical of his usual roles that I did not recognize him at first. He usually plays steadfast father and husband figures. For example:
Enjoy Life (MBC, 2009)
Three Brothers (KBS2, 2009)
Golden Era of Daughter in Law (KBS2, 2007)
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I also really enjoy some of the little touches the writers put into this one. Like when Cheolsu was driving by Myeonghui so slowly in his red convertible, the background music something like a John Williams theme of a grand warrior passing by. That was a good one.



I got a kick out of this scene too, with the Superman theme and all put it over the top!

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