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So, yeah, the big day is here and I turned on my converter box to watch the new Jdorama on 18.2 at 9:00 and - no signal! No signal on any of the "18.x" stations. In fact I have no signal on about half of the digital channels I was getting just yesterday! Where are they?
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So, yeah, the big day is here and I turned on my converter box to watch the new Jdorama on 18.2 at 9:00 and - no signal! No signal on any of the "18.x" stations. In fact I have no signal on about half of the digital channels I was getting just yesterday! Where are they?
I'm so glad you posted!!! The same exact thing is happening to me. I turned on the TV to Channel 18.2, and it says "No Signal". Even when I tried checking Channel 18's other digital sub-channels, I keep getting the same "No Signal" message on the TV. I just checked 44.1, and that seems to be working fine. What's odd is that I was able to watch Channel 18.2 perfectly until now, even this morning. I hope this is fixed soon...

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Hmm, I just talked to one of my friends who also has a digital converter box and is usually able to watch channels like 18.2, and he says that he also has a "No Signal" message on his TV. I'd imagine this might have something to do with today's digital conversion, but since I already have an antenna and a digital converter box, shouldn't I be able to continue watching as usual? I wanted to watch the new Friday night show, LOL!
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Just a quick update: I was advised by my friend to try rescanning for channels after adjusting the antenna. I tried rescanning, and now I'm able to receive most of the digital channels I had before except for 18.1 and its digital channels. I checked AntennaWeb, and it says that I should be able to view 18.1 and its sub-channels from my house. Plus, I was able to view it easily before. Is anybody else having the same problem after rescanning for channels?
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Hmm, good news, and bad news. The good news is that this morning, I tried rescanning for channels and was able to scan Channel 18 and its digital channels. The bad news is that now I'm back to square one! Whenever I flip to Channel 18.x, I get a black screen and the message "No Signal", even when I try adjusting the antenna. I don't have this problem with any of the other digital channels.

Thanks everyone, for your help -- sorry for the constant posts, I'm just afraid that I won't be able to watch 18.2 anymore, LOL!
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The word for the day is RESCAN. Looks like it will take a few days (or weeks) for the stations to scramble to their final frequencies. The channel numbers will remain the same (but the actual channel frequency may change). So just keep rescanning (and/or adjusting your rabbit ears) over the next few days till the station reappears. (The stations may also change tower locations, so you may have to fiddle with the rabbit ears to find them).

You can see the post June 12th channel lineup at http://www.tvfool.com (just enter your zip code) and select digital only after june 12th.

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Just for kicks, I did a quick check on tvfool.com and it appears that digital channel 18.2 was broadcasting on channel 61 pre-June12th.

According to the web site, they will be switching back to their original frequency of channel 18 post June 12th.

This may take time. Your digital tv's/converter boxes may still be set to receive 18.1 on channel 61. Keep recanning till they switch.

BTW, the channel 18.1 is a virtual channel number and was implemented for the whole analog to digital switch. The channel number stays the same, but the actual channel frequency can change. Let the tuner/converter box do all the work. RESCAN often. emoticon

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Good news and bad news here, too! I can get it all figured out eventually, but hantaejun is certainly correct: RESCAN, RESCAN, RESCAN!

After a program I was recording went to 'snow' in the middle of it Thursday night, I also noticed that my Dondo Hare recording didn't work for the 10:30a Friday showing. So I did my VCR thing, resetting the recording source, rescanning, etc., and programmed to catch Friday's Dondo Bare at 2a this morning. It didn't record! @#$%!

Okay, so I've let go emotionally of the expectation that I'll be able to record all my J-programs for now and will just keep trying to figure this out and accept that it is simply going to take a few days or so for the digital dust to finally settle (I hope). In the meantime, I'll keep trying to figure this out with the particular equipment I own. (I am not going to buy anything new yet.)

I also saw a very helpful little program a couple days ago on indoor antennae. One of them shown was an example of what they call a "smart antenna." It consists of a flat, square, solid 'box' (about the size of a laptop computer). It is able to pick up digital signals from all directions and to 'decide' which is the strongest for the channel you have selected. It eliminates having to fiddle with your indoor antenna, trying to find the best position for reception for this or that station. HOWEVER, a smart antenna works only with a converter box that is "smart antenna" capable—the converter box must have a "smart antenna input" on the back where you hook everything up.

Oh fiddle dee dee, I'll think about it tomorrow....
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Yesterday, we struggled with the same problem everyone is describing. At one point, after detaching then reattaching the cord from the antenna to the converter box, our system started to show UTB on ch.73.2 instead of 18.2. Finally, we unplugged EVERYTHING, waited five minutes, and then started COMPLETELY FROM THE BEGINNING again -- a completely fresh INSTALLATION SETUP of the converter box (including the automatic "new channel" search). After that was complete, we were successful in getting back all our old channels, including 18.2.

If you happen to have a converter box that allows you to timer record at later times, then you will also have to check to see that your original recording schedule is still operational (for some reason, ours had shifted all recordings to ch.44 -KXLA, and had to be reprogrammed).
Good luck minasan!
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Everyone, thank you so much for all your helpful responses! Everything is now working perfectly on my end. This afternoon, I went to Best Buy to see if they carry the smart antenna that Nchristi mentioned. One of the employees told me that they were all sold out of smart antennas, but they do have a "flat antenna" in stock. It essentially looks the same as a smart antenna (flat and about the size of a laptop computer), but the smart antenna apparently works even better than this "flat antenna". Nonetheless, the employee also mentioned that the flat antenna still works much better than the traditional "rabbit ears" antenna.

I set the flat antenna up, and it was able to scan and find Channel 18 and its digital channels almost instantly! The quality is excellent, too.

I just want to say thank you to everyone for your helpful responses! Hope everyone is able to solve all the problems created by the "digital dust"!
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