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class blockquote vannessave wrote:

Thanks for the help Bubu! Well after much scanning we finally got our channel 7 to show up but it doesn't come in. Do you think I need to rescan or it is amatter of just jiggling my rabbit ears or my loop. the scanning drives me crazy I've gotten results ranging from 18 channels to 51 and that is with just rescanning and not moving anything. Oh well.

Thanks again for the help and for the links
Don't give up! Sounds like just messing with the antenna should eventually get it. Did your Ch.7 normally come in strong when watching analog? Make sure all connections are tight. Sometimes just a inch or so, one way or the other might make all the difference in the world. Keep trying different positions, maybe moving the antenna close to a window or even another room might be necessary. Even things like a building or tall tree can block reception.

The digital signal is different than analog, so antenna positioning is more critical... with digital, the picture signal is either ON or OFF, and should ALWAYS be crystal clear. With analog signals, even if your antenna position isn't optimal, you'll still get reception, but will probably see interference, snow or ghosts.

The set in my bedroom is connected to the 30+ year-old rooftop antenna, and it comes in fine, but the set in the living room picks up more stations just using el cheapo rabbit ears... go figure.

If all else fails, you may have to look into a better amplified indoor or maybe even an rooftop antenna. But, I suggest you wait until Feb. 2009 before spending cash on an antenna, most all stations are currently broadcasting on reduced power until the official switchover, and some stations will switch transmitters when the analog stations are shut off, also they are all still testing the new equipment out, so things will keep changing until then. Your reception may be much stronger when that happens. Let me know if you need more help.


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i have a converter, but I have not set it up.....my analog tv is hooked up to 1. dvd
2.vcr

any suggestions?
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i have a converter, but I have not set it up.....my analog tv is hooked up to 1. dvd
2.vcr
any suggestions?
Diane, Without knowing the make and model of all your components, it would be difficult to recommend the best way to hook up your system. It also depends on what you plan to do with the VCR, if you only have one digital tuner, you won't be able to record a show while watching another... in that case you'll need two converter boxes.

You can try this site, it has wiring diagrams for many different situations.
Audio Video Cable Hookup Diagrams Index
Try diagram #79

If that doesn't work, I suggest going to a forum like AVS, post your question, and list all your components... then I'm sure somebody should be able to help you out.

Hope this might help... good luck!


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Interesting article in yesterday's NY Times... class blockquote Democrats Seek Delay in TV Shift


By BRIAN STELTER
Published: January 8, 2009

The nation’s broadcasters may not complete their long-awaited switch to all-digital TV next month, after all.


On Thursday President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team urged Congress to extend the Feb. 17 cutoff date for analog broadcasting, injecting new uncertainty into a switch that has confused customers and cost the government more than $1.3 billion in subsidies.

Several television networks and high-ranking Democrats supported Mr. Obama’s proposal, although it remains unclear whether a change will be made.

Ending analog signals will affect millions of television viewers who own old televisions. Those sets will not be able to receive over-the-air television signals once the mandated upgrade to digital transmission takes place, unless their owners buy converter boxes, which the government is subsidizing.

In the most significant sign to date of concern about the impending transition, John D. Podesta, the chairman of the Obama transition team, said the Congressional financing to support the change was “woefully inadequate.”

Echoing concerns from consumers groups, Mr. Podesta said in a letter to Congressional leaders that the Obama staff had found major difficulties in the transition, which was authorized by Congress in 2005.

He said a federal coupon program for discounts on the cost of converter boxes has, at least temporarily, run out of funds, forcing more than one million coupon requests to be put on a waiting list. To date, 18.8 million coupons have been redeemed; some have expired without being used, and as more expire, new ones will be made available.

Mr. Podesta said that the number of requests — possibly hundreds of thousands each day — could overwhelm the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, which is running the program. The coupons are worth $40, and the most basic converters cost about $50.

Mr. Podesta also described as insufficient the government’s plans to handle the expected rush of inquiries as Feb. 17 draws near and indicated that Mr. Obama’s proposed stimulus package would include funds to address the problems.

Several high-ranking Congressional members said the recommendation should be considered swiftly. Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia and chairman of the committee on commerce, science and transportation, said he would support delaying the analog cutoff “until we can do it right.”

But some prominent Republicans rejected the recommendation. In a statement, Representative Joe L. Barton of Texas said that “ditching the deadline” would amount to panic. “We don’t need to bail out the DTV transition program because it isn’t failing, and reintroducing uncertainty to the switch will make things worse instead of better," Mr. Barton, a ranking member of the House committee on energy and commerce, said.

Neither Mr. Podesta nor any of the lawmakers indicated the length of a potential delay.

The end of analog broadcasting will free up spectrum for use by wireless companies and public safety agencies. A big advertising campaign by the government and the broadcasting industry, complete with messages on the side of a Nascar race car, has asked consumers, “Are you ready?”

Still, Nielsen Media Research estimates that 7.8 million households, representing 6.8 percent of homes with television, were not ready as of December because they had not upgraded any of their television sets. Unless members of those households purchase new TV’s or converter boxes, they will lose service when the analog signals are shut off. Homes with cable or satellite service will not be affected, only those with old antennas.

The owners of major networks, including NBC Universal and the News Corporation, have indicated that they support a delay. After all, they could see a drop in audience if many TV sets suddenly go dark.

Local television stations in many markets have held digital TV tests, temporarily turning off their analog signal and informing viewers of the impending change. During one recent test in Knoxville, Tenn., Debra Krause Dandaneau, found that the television and antenna she had purchased did not work without a converter box. She requested a coupon for a converter box in October, but it had expired by the time it arrived in the mail.

She has waited four weeks for a new one.

“Now, I wonder ‘Will that coupon be delivered?’ ” she said, adding that she has a Ph.D. in physics and that “this has been difficult and frustrating.”
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Delaying the date will solve NOTHING. I repeat, it will solve NOTHING. Everyone will continue to wait to the last minute and people will still be ignorant about it. Even if you just watch a little bit of TV each month then there is no way in hell you do not know the switch is coming. They have been blasting us with ads/commercials for the past year FFS!

Why the hell did the converter coupon have a expiration date?

I agree with Joe Barton. Screwing the deadline will only mess things up and make everything worse than it is. And only for 7% of households? Give me a freaking break. They already moved the switch date once already, just make the damn switch already!
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One of the side problems is the financial crisis we're in. There isn't any money left for the coupon program to cover the remaining households and getting more funding will be difficult, if possible. Also, I read that they're considering shortening the coupon validity to only two weeks. If the recipient doesn't redeem the coupon within two weeks, they lose their chance and the next person on the list will get that "slot" for a coupon.

Or maybe they already have the solution, as mentioned in the article. Just send out coupons that have already expired!

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Nchristi, thanks for posting the article! That's pretty interesting that the February 17th date for digital conversion may end up being postponed. It's really a shame to see how many coupons end up expiring because they are never redeemed and thus go unused. I wonder if shortening the coupon validity to just two weeks will help. Maybe that way, the coupons won't end up being wasted.

Yeah, sending out expired coupons sure would be a quick and easy solution, LOL! emoticon
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We have been bombarded for so long with information on the TV about all this changeover that it numbs the mind. Well my mind anyway.

I did buy a new flatscreen HDTV. I am with Coxcable. I do not have a converter box Cox will now and then say ' If you have cable you do not need a converter box if you already have our cable box.'

I am assuming that only works with the new TV but I also have a large analog TV in another room with a DVdplayer attached (externally) I do not expect this to work at all after the changeover. It is with Cox cable but does not have the Cox Box. I am not really sure if I want to do anything with this so will this work at all in the future?? should I put it on the Cox Box??

Life does not have to be this complicated for Dumbos.

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I am assuming that only works with the new TV but I also have a large analog TV in another room with a DVdplayer attached (externally) I do not expect this to work at all after the changeover. It is with Cox cable but does not have the Cox Box. I am not really sure if I want to do anything with this so will this work at all in the future?? should I put it on the Cox Box??
you can put it on the Cox box if you want.
the analog TV will not work after switch over, if your TV is not hook up to your Cableco box or indoor/outdoor antenna thru converter box. but seriously, those sub-channels in LA18 still broadcast in SD not HD, and how many channels in your cable actually broadcast in HD? not many right? the day that you see 3/4 of all the channels (that you were able to tune to) broadcast in HD, that is the time you can junk you analog TV. keep it until then, brad6.


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Here's more from this article at WFTV.com class blockquote Obama Joins Growing List Urging DTV Delay

PBS Head, Consumer Group Blast Handling Of Converter Box Coupons

Thursday, January 8, 2009 – updated: 3:59 pm EST January 8, 2009
President-elect Barack Obama has joined a growing number of people urging Congress to postpone the Feb. 17 switch from analog to digital television broadcasting.

In a letter to key lawmakers, transition team co-chair John Podesta warned Thursday that too many Americans who rely on analog TV sets to pick up over-the-air broadcasts won't be ready.

The incoming administration is pushing for a delay in part because the Commerce Department has run out of money for the coupons that subsidize digital TV converter boxes for consumers. The Commerce Department announced Monday there is now a waiting list for anyone applying for coupons. People who don't have cable or satellite TV or a new TV with a digital tuner will need the converter boxes to keep their analog TVs working.

Obama officials are also concerned that the government is not giving consumers enough help with the TV transition.

On Wednesday, Consumers Union, the nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports magazine, said that Congress should consider delaying the transition.

"The federal government is getting $19 billion from selling the analog TV spectrum, while people with analog TVs have to go out and spend their own money for a converter box," said Joel Kelsey, policy analyst for Consumers Union. "Everyone affected by the digital switch should be able to get their $40 coupons."

Consumers Union also questioned the capacity of the Federal Communications Commission's national call center that will handle calls after the switch.

Others are also blasting the government over the way the switch is being handled.

Paula Kerger, president and CEO of the Public Broadcasting System, said Wednesday that the waiting list is inexcusable and called for immediate federal action.

It's especially crucial because "people are making very hard economic choices in their households" and more are depending on free, over-the-air television instead of cable or satellite, Kerger told a meeting of the Television Critics Association.

Even those in the government themselves have been expressing fears about the switch.

At an FCC meeting last month, Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein raised alarms, saying, "I'm afraid the DTV transition isn't ready for prime time yet. I'm afraid it's going to be messy."

He also expressed concern that consumers in fringe areas don't yet realize the signal area for the DTV signals will be slightly different than analog signals and that some could lose signals.

There is some relief for viewers who won't be ready for the switch though. President George W. Bush signed a law in late December that will extend the cut-off for 30 days for the limited purpose of broadcasting emergency information and key details about the transition for consumers left out in the cold.

Distributed by Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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