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I am working an insane schedule this week , so I must watch and post early or it doesn't get done .
I don't mean to imply that this is an assignment , however . ( Actually , I am taking this week off from an online course I am taking emoticon )

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Sometimes when I am watching an episode , such as tonight's , it strikes me again how fine and well
done this show is . And , even though we may disagree about the characters , it also occurs to me that while these are fictional people they are simply representing people complete with their imperfections and foibles . It sure makes it seem more real .

Jongnams shock is palpable when she finds out that Sukhyun is engaged to Haein . I can sense her confusion , disappointment and even anger as she processes her way through this news . To top it off Daejung wants the dog back , and even Jaeok can't help but see that something is going on with her daughter .

Speaking of the dog , I thought it was a female even though Jongnam has called it Mr Pooh . That is not what bothers me , though . As an animal lover , I am disturbed by the fact that that dog rarely gets out of its bed ....is it just me ?

Gram may be misguided in her reasoning , but she has one thing right : Haein and Sukhyun should not get married ! Not only are they a total mismatch , I would go so far that they are a disaster in the
making - a train wreck even .

What the heck ? It is a month til their wedding and they have to be pushed to go to the wedding shop ?
What wedding shop could pull that off in a month ? Why are the only two people excited about this wedding NOT the couple but the mothers of the couple ?

I realized anew what a mismatch those two were in the cafe scene - OMG ! Those two work together and Haein is in a subordinate position . Sukhyun is defensive about Kiwoong's assignment to China when challenged by Haein , and he gets all high and mighty . SO they still can't talk about anything and this is WITHOUT any of the other people around them - this is just the two of them here .
I know Sukhyun has a lot to learn , and I frankly do not like his attitude but I also know that whatever hard lessons to be learned await him in the future .

I still think he was thoughtless in his dealings with Jongnam , but I also do not think he was malicious in any way . HE JUST DOESN'T AND DIDN'T THINK .
Jongnam gets it but he doesn't . ...and that is what I don't like . She has DONE her hard knocks education and she didn't need more .Sigh .

Thank goodness for Cider Park . I am gaining a whole new appreciation for him .

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I don't think anyone ever reads what I post ....

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I do read what you post, Nelda. But, I know what you mean. I sometimes feel the same way. Like I'm posting into space. I think its because there were so many more of us and we had constant feedback. Its lonely here without emceema and Jasy and patiently, etc. Those people have found lives it seems.

Don't worry about catching up. We'll be here when you get back.

I'm going to post on the next couple of episodes later today.

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When Jaeok asks about the park and did Jongnam have fun, the only things Jongnam could come up with was the Haunted House and the fireworks. Those were the most important things that stuck out in her mind.

When Nara asks Suky where he's been and with who, he gives her his usual brush off. She asks if he'd been with Haein. Has Nara ever seen Suky returning from Haein glowing like that? Are you kidding me? He's even playful with Nara, who can't imagine Suky ever being playful.

Minsook as always is discreet when she questions Kiwoong about Suky and Jongnam. Jaedo thinks its no big deal, because Suky loves Haein so much. Minsook isn't that blind. She sees the possibilities. It worries her.

Jongnam and Suky in costume was golden. They're both beautiful here. I was thinking how some used to think Haein and Suky looked good together, but I can't imagine why anyone ever thought that. These two together are magic.

Byungdoo thinks Kiwoong is a wimp. He thinks he should just grab Haein up if he likes her. Yujingf warns Haein not to say Kiwoong and Suky are cousins. Here it is. Haein tells her father about Kiwoong and their relationship. Byungdoo is questioning why Yujing wants to have him transferred. Haein explains that Kiwoong is just like her other GIRLFRIENDS! She does let her mother have it, for suggesting he get transferred and especially to Nara. Haein's still saying he's over her. Such a phony.

The scene at breakfast is a fine example of Nara's manipulative genius. She comes off as looking out for Kiwoong's best interest. Father and son are almost swallowing it. I say almost because Suky says he'll think about it. He sees the promise, but isn't totally convinced. They both speak up for him. Jaeman gets why she wants him transferred, but doesn't want to do it. She denies that's the reason.

When Jongnam and Kiwoong bump into each other at work, he sees a whole new Jongnam. He discusses how she changed her hairstyle for a couple of minutes. Maybe he's everyone's girlfriend. A few minutes later he sees why. He sees Suky and Jongnam acting very familiar and hears that they'd been together the day before. He's just everywhere.

Jongnam asks if he's had lunch and he tells her he has an appointment. They're still acting normal together. He's having lunch with Haein and she asks him about the cello. She repeats what Kiwoong told her about him wanting to pursue it as a career. She's all cute and asks him how he could hide it from her? What? Suky has the same reaction. Hide it? Why hide it? She's all "I can't imagine you playing the cello". He tells her not to imagine it. He asks if Kiwoong told her. Who else? The other thing I'd like to know is how come after the big reveal and all of the problems following the day Gram had her meltdown is it still not inappropriate for her to spend so much time with Kiwoong. The whole family knows how he was basically dumped by her and he's still hanging around while everyone is taking a turn trying to change Gram's mind. How's that okay? I guess Suky's a lot more secure than Haein. Or he doesn't see Kiwoong as competition. One of the two.

Kiwoong seeks Jongnam out and gets it out of her that she'd been with Suky the day before. He immediately tells her not to meet him again in a personal way. He tells her he's marrying Haein in January. He asks her if she "likes" Suky and she denies it, saying they're not like that. It was the beginning and was over in a flash.

She's never seen him with anyone special. Haein didn't count yet, because they're working when she sees them together. He's always alone when she sees him outside of work. I'd have asked, but I'm nosy. Obviously we're to believe she didn't know, because she didn't know.

Suky. Suky went to the amusement park to have a day that was not his usual kind of day. He went and had fun and felt easy and free. A totally new experience for him. Jongnam contributed to that feeling. Jongnam is always in that element. Suky's not. He did not go there to seduce Jongnam or to be seduced by Jongnam. He never saw that coming. Though I want to blame him I don't know how. I don't think he did anything wrong, anymore than I think Jongnam did. I feel bad for both of them. Neither of them played with the others' feelings. It happened to both of them and not intentionally on either part.

Suky didn't have a chance to see any girl but Haein and this one makes him smile and laugh. He can be himself with this one. He finds out how ho hum his life is going to be. I don't agree that he did this to fool Jongnam into liking him. It happened between both of them both quite naturally.

If Suky did anything wrong it was agreeing to marry Haein prematurely. When Suky got back to Korea he didn't even have time to look around to see who might interest him as a life partner. It was say "hello" to Haein, she's going to be your wife. I get that it's a cultural thing, I'm just saying.

I know how Suky's starting to feel about Jongnam, but he's the only one of the two, who knows his commitment to Haein, so he's the responsible party. He really has nothing to offer her.

That's it for now.

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Sorry about your pc , nsheldon .

Of course we read your posts - don't you read ours ? Smoochie is right though about the feedback .

I propose we wait a couple of days for nsheldon to get her pc back .

How about restarting on Monday with 55 ?

Let me know what you think smoochie !

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I just watched 54 and will be back later to comment. As usual I have a different opinion. Oh well.... emoticon

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53... there was a moment when Suky actually had a look on his face that said he knows being with Jongnam is not right. I do think he is doing wrong and knows he's doing wrong in spending time with Jongnam. Of course I'm all for them to continue doing just that. Fate, you know.

Kiwoong. Oh why am I so annoyed with him this watch? I hate feeling this irritated with him. So I'm gonna tell myself that everything he's doing is basically because he loves Haein and he loves her enough to really and truly want her to be happy. He believes she loves Suky and that her happiness is with him. So I have to try to find reasons NOT to dislike Kiwoong. Also, I think K has a genuine love for his cousin Suky and he also now cares very much for Jongnam. He really does act like the 'girlfriend' to all of them. So I really have to cut him some slack.

Suky is grilled by Nara when he gets home. I'm curious why he didn't try to hide the silly rabbit hat thingy. Nara asks where he was, who he was with. He told her he was with a decent person. Wow... didn't Nara's imagination go straight to Jongnam? I'm surprised she didn't seem to think of J.. ?????

Minsook is such a good person. She cares for everyone. Kiwoong is like her. Minsook doesn't say much to Kiwoong but she does question him about Jongnam and Suky's relationship. Kiwoong is totally oblivious to what's going on (yet)... But later, Minsook does talk to Jaedo about her concerns. Oh this is a wonderful couple. I love how they trust each other and tell each other everything. They are just the best.

Yeah, Smoochie, it wouldn't have occurred to Jongnam to think Suky had anyone. She's never heard anything because Suky and Haein don't let anyone at work know. Kiwoong only knows because he is a relative. I wonder how long Suky would have kept Jongnam in the dark about him being engaged if Kiwoong hadn't told.

I think no one has said anything because it had to move in the direction of Suky becoming attracted enough to Jongnam that he wouldn't want to stop seeing her. And had Jongnam found out anything (from her mom, from Kiwoong, from Suky or from Haein... all of whom kept quiet about the engagement) she would have immediately stopped herself from being around him alone. But she has developed feelings for him now and he to her, so it had to go that far so this bond and attraction could happen.

Note: I still have my pc. Hopefully it will get fixed before Christmas but......

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Grandma's stubbornness is born from her experience with her husband who married her but loved somebody else. She does not want history to repeat itself. She doesn't want Kiwoong to suffer the same way. Though I think his wife would suffer more knowing he's still mourning his first love. Won't that be true even if nobody marries Haein? Who knows. Who cares. That's why Gram said Suky's mate is somebody else.

So the wedding date is January 28th and Nara mentioned that's 2 months away, so we're in the end of November I guess. I like to try to keep a time frame and it all begins with Suky returning from the states at the end of summer. If that's true that means that Suky and Haein are dating, what 3 months? No wonder they're so weird! They don't even know anything about each other. The only thing they know is that they'll be husband and wife in 2 months. They're, for all practical purposes, strangers. That's why they have so many misunderstandings. Neither of them has a clue what makes the other tick.

In the midst of her own shock Jongnam realized the effects of the pairing of Suky and Haein on Kiwoong.

Nara's trying to push Suky into going wedding shopping. Jaeman says Gram first. Neither Suky nor Haein seem to be in a big hurry to go shopping. He tells Haein he's going to see Gram, because there's no use preparing without her approval. Nara on the other hand says Gram or no Gram there'll be a wedding. Haein asks if she should go with him. This is a really bad idea. Haein would be the last person welcomed by Gram at this point. Suky said they could go together another time.

Jaeok tries her hand at convincing Gram. She puts forth a really good argument, but Gram won't budge. Gram says she's not afraid of Nara and won't change her mind. Jaeok tells her Nara'll go on with the wedding without her approval and then Gram'll look bad. Gram says no.

When Jaeok gets home she tells Jongnam that her visit to Gram was because of Suky's marriage. Now everyone is forthcoming with information about Suky's marriage. A day late and a dollar short. Jaeok thinks Jongnam looks tired. Jongnam is upset not tired.

While she's making a delivery at Wellbeing she gets a text from Suky telling her he has the postcards he wants to give her and she should stop by. She runs into him and he tells her to come into his office and get the cards. She tells him she doesn't need cards and rushes off. He's acting normal. Jongnam's not. He doesn't get why Jongnam is so cool to him.

Suky and Haein get into a real argument over Kiwoong being transferred. These are business decisions which are not hers to make. Suky calls her on being so sensitive about Kiwoong. Haein tells him that its all about them and she doesn't think its fair. So far I've seen Suky as fair in dealing with his employees and at the end of the day Kiwoong is an employee. Suky usually does the right thing. I do get her concern, but I don't think she should tell Suky to not even ask Kiwoong. She did the same thing with his sushi project which made Suky stubborn, but when it was right he actually pushed for Kiwoong's idea. Haein needs to mind her own business and give Suky a chance to do what's right on his own.

Seems to me no one minds their business in this drama. Okdoo goes home and repeats the argument that Suky and Haein had about Kiwoong. Byungdoo is now wondering who exactly Kiwoong is. Yujing is going crazy trying to shut her up, but there's no way to stop her. She even mentioned a love triangle.

Jaeok sees Jongnam moping at breakfast and thinks its about her having to give the dog back. Suky and that dog are tied together in Jongnam's mind. Even in her conversation with Jaeok we're not sure if she's talking about Suky or Mr. Pooh. She asks the dog why he came if he was going to leave? She asks how they can both be the same. She's decided to let both of them go. It's not her dog and its not her man.

Jongnam runs into Haein and asks to speak to her. Haein could not have looked less welcoming if she tried. Jongnam, basically apologizes to Haein for any misunderstanding and for saying things she shouldn't have. Haein's face has almost no expression. You'd think she'd at least be relieved.
 
Suky visits Gram. His turn to try to change her mind. She tells him he should feel sorry for Kiwoong. He says he does. She says she knows he didn't do it on purpose, but he hurt Kiwoong. He should be sorry. Why? Why should he be sorry? He didn't steal Kiwoong's girlfriend. He had no idea Kiwoong was even interested in her. Why should he be sorry? He didn't do anything to be sorry for. I'm sick of Gram.

Jongnam shows up with the dog and is stopped at the door by Kiwoong. He has this dramatic look on his face like she's in danger. She wants to say hello to the family and he tells her Suky is there. So what? Maybe they can act normal. Maybe they can get past this and things would be okay. Kiwoong the drama queen is on the case. More interference.

The conception dream was originally written in to leave the viewer wondering. We are no longer wondering this time. We already know Suky's parentage. This time I'm thinking why not just chalk it up to Gram's age. She just remembered it wrong. What's the big deal?

My opinion remains the same. Suky's day with Jongnam at the park was a day away from his usual life. He enjoyed himself and had a moment or two when he felt drawn to her, but that's it. He wasn't trying to keep secrets from Jongnam and his intention was not to seduce her or to be seduced by her. The people at work do know they're dating. Its no secret. It was just supposed to be fun. It was fun for both of them. Sorry to say Jongnam liked him first. When they ran into each other the next day she was all flirty and he was just the same as he always was. Like I said he was drawn to her, but not to the extent that Jongnam was drawn to him. Not yet. If he is, he has no idea yet.

Again, the only thing he did that he shouldn't have done is lie to Haein. He did nothing wrong to Jongnam. My opinion and I'll die defending it. emoticon Was he not supposed to laugh and smile and have fun and be gorgeous and funny? Its not his fault Jongnam fell for him. He was only being himself. He can't help it if he's so Suky. He just is.

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This is not Suky. This is Go Joo Won, who plays Suky. Suky never got the cotton candy. The actor is in his own clothes too.

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