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Re: NOTICE: UTB 18.2 TO GO OFF THE AIR EFFECTIVE 9/3/16


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I agree that the problem may be that UTB was only attracting a small yet devoted viewership that was not large enough to sell ad time or attract sponsors.

Plus I remember something somebody told me once during a job interview back in 2011 that the Japanese population in southern California is all spread out, and that it is not as big as the Korean or Chinese population.




The matter of the Japanese-American diaspora has been alluded sometimes by UTB's own "SoCal Japan" - for whatever reason, Japanese Americans are finding it harder to keep themselves culturally distinct and it is manifesting itself with the loss of Japanese newspapers, effectiveness of community groups, and perhaps this is another sign of their assimilation.

On the other hand, I can hypothesize of larger forces in play, namely internet streaming that is slowly changing the way everyone watches TV. I have never done it myself, but it seems that anyone can watch the latest Japanese Drama, Anime, films months and years before someone like UTB can put it on the air.

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Unfortunately, I recently experienced a fave tv station go off the air. Until late last year, ch 58.4 (MHz Metworks) aired European dramas and news. Then they decided that they would stream their content over the internet for a monthly subscription fee.
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I was thinking about how much Japanese tv there was on broadcast tv in LA 30-20 years ago. I found this old article from 1989.
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-02-05/entertainment/ca-2542_1_los-angeles-area

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Unfortunately, I recently experienced a fave tv station go off the air. Until late last year, ch 58.4 (MHz Metworks) aired European dramas and news. Then they decided that they would stream their content over the internet for a monthly subscription fee.



I think you can get the channel if you have Roku.

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I don't want to look like I'm spamming up this thread, but I saw the notice aired in both Japanese and English about the channel ending on September 3rd while I was watching the 9PM airing of Love Live!

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What a happy surprise to see that the LA18 OTA TV listing is once again populated with the specific programming for each substation. YAY!
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That is good news about the program listings appearing once again! I guess the other LA18 sub-channels aren't going anywhere just yet. It makes sense, especially with the launch of the new SBS 18.10 subchannel.

Regarding UTB's demise, I agree that streaming of J-dramas might be a big factor. Unlike many of the Korean stations, which air K-dramas around the same time as they air in Korea, UTB often didn't air J-dramas currently airing in Japan. By the time they aired here on UTB, they were usually 2-3 years old. The only exceptions were the Taiga and Partners. With the spread of internet streaming sites to watch J-drama, many viewers might have just opted for those and stopped watching UTB - not to mention that many cable/satellite subscribers weren't going to go through buying a digital antenna and converter box if they already watched everything else on cable/satellite. (Devoted viewers like some of us on this forum are a notable exception!)

I do not watch streaming content because I much prefer to watch my programs on the 'big screen' - sitting down in front of a computer and watching programs for hours at a time gives me a headache. I guess, I'll only be watching the Taiga for now!
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Anyone else feeling a particular portent with the end of 18.2 and the subsequent downsizing of UTB? Specifically, that is time there is no one carry the mantle Japanese programming?

I have been watching Japanese programming since the days of AHC and when they shutdown, magicbell.tv picked the slack until they drifted in focus. While UTB will continue to the feature - at least - the taiga drama, how will I be able to watch the contemporary Japanese drama on TV?
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I have the same feeling about the end of UTB, kencaesi. It's true that NHK has their 24-hr. programming on KCET 28.4, and I watch a number of their offerings. Still, UTB provided the best non-NHK dramas and I will really miss some of the regulars, such as Partners. Hopefully, there will be a way to watch some of these dramas, but I'm with Hiroshi on not wanting to sit here watching at my computer.
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Yes, I think the only way we will ever see contemporary J-dramas aired again on TV is if UTB adds an extra hour or two to their programming on 18.1. Perhaps they are just testing the waters with this new format and will eventually add to it (conservatively) if it takes off.

I am hopeful that the new format on 18.1 will take off, and that ratings will be better than they were on 18.2. After all, by returning to 18.1, UTB will be getting the cable/satellite viewership back for the first time since the digital conversion. This might allow them to justify additional hour(s) of programming.

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This is really a shock. I`ve always wondered why TWC didn`t carry 18.2. I wonder if another Asian provider will now take over 18.2.There are other local channels with sub channels if UTB wanted to find another outlet for its programming. It would be nice if UTB could have programs on both Sat and Sun on 18.1,and I agree being on all the cable systems might be beneficial.

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