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Not much to enjoy these past few episodes. Nara's poison makes it all unbearable to watch. She acts like a spoiled rotten 3 yr old, throwing a tantrum, sulking and just being horrid because she isn't getting her way.

Suky collapsed on the street and finds out he is very ill. He wants so much to have his mother but when he goes to see her she makes it clear they are no longer mother/son. She is trying so hard to hurt him. And then she sits around feeling sorry for herself, as if she were the victim and the one being hurt. OMG I can't stand that evil woman!

Kiwoong is embarrassed and hurt by being forced to quit. He is trying to make the most of it and working hard to find a business plan. But you know he's not feeling good about Haein working and him not bringing any money home. Gotta hand it to Haein, she is really sticking by him, supporting him and being super good about being the only one working.

Okdoo's husband is trying to worm his way back in. He isn't beneath using his own son, or any other dirty method to get what he wants. Such a disgusting excuse for a man.

Nara goes to see Jaeok, I suppose to harass her and bully her. Jaeok is patient with Nara but I sure wish she would have told her "Jongnam is my daughter and I will do whatever it takes to ensure her happiness and don't give a rat's a$$ what you (Nara) think about it". I wish someone who say what needs to be said to Nara!!!

Think we're in for a rough ride for most of the remaining episodes. Jaeman is no help either. He is a man who looks after himself above all else. I can't stand how he hovers over Nara, worrying about what will happen to him.

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Happy New Year to all in the den .

I am sorry for the long delay once again ...I don't know why I am so busy lately .

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The drama keeps moving . Kiwoong is humiliated in front of his mother in law ; she catches him at home in the middle of the day hanging up underwear in the courtyard . She now knows he is out of work , Kiwoong is such a likeable character to me , but YouJing doesn't feel the way I do . At least ByunDoo gives him the benefit of the doubt .

Big ( and BAD ) news for Sukhyun . He finds out he is very ill with a liver condition .

I will only say this about Nara's latest antics . I hope that in my lifetime I fever meet anyone like her . She is capable of turning her back on her son if he doesn't do what she wants , and will throw food on the floor that has been prepared for her with love .

There is almost no hope for someone like that .

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Nara pushes Sukhyun to the floor and she ignores his pleas for forgiveness even though he is kneeling

I also think that Sukhyun is keeping all his problems inside , and the secrets from Jongnam are mounting up . It is hard to think of a worse start to a marriage than those two have .

I don't remember what Sukhyun's motivation is in what he is doing now so I will have to wait to see what unfolds . Unfortunately , between Nara and Okdoos creepy ex , I have had enough .

I usually like Jaedo but I didn't like the way he was telling Minsook to go make peace with Nara .

My response would be " Why , so she can roll over all of us again ? "

Checking out of the den for now

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I agree about Jaedo. Also didn't like how he told Minsook to make peace w/Nara. Seriously, why does he keep telling Minsook (since this drama began) to make up w/Nara, be nice to Nara, be thankful to Nara. All the while it's fine the way Nara treats everyone else in the family? And if I were Minsook, I'd be a lot more clearer in telling him to 'stick it'. Why should Minsook kiss up to Nara. Sure, Nara took Suky when he was a baby and saved his life. That's big. But she's the one who got the better end of that deal. She took their son and then proceeded, for the next 30 years to look down on them and act like they owed her!

Why doesn't Byungdoo tell that creep to quit coming over? He is so disgusting. And do you see the way Okdoo acts so terrified of him. I wonder if he was more than a cheater. I think he may have abused her the way she acts around him.

I even was irritated with Kiwoong in this one. Why is he trying to get money out of grandma? Go make it on your own and leave that woman alone. Can't stand how him and Jaeman keep trying to get that pouch.

Jongnam knows that Suky resigned. Of course, it's all Jongnam's doing, according to Nara. That woman is just pure hate!! I really am sick of how she carries on like she's the one being mistreated. Every time Suky is around her she treats him so horribly. And if Jongnam tries to contact her she screams at her and hangs up. She doesn't care how she causes others to suffer and she wallows in suffering of her own making. I just can't find the words for this woman.


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Oh no. Jongnam goes to Minsook's to learn to make Suky's favorite (ugh) loach soup. Jongnam looks on enviously at the warm and caring relationship that Haein and MInsook have. Suky comes to pick her up and is super nasty to Minsook. I don't know why Minsook felt the need to touch Suky's face. Don't think she should have done that, but she sure knows now that it was not welcomed. He shoves her hand away and then gets upset w/Jongnam, telling her to not take food from others. Jongnam is so embarrassed and angry. She wants to walk home but Suky apologizes and gets her in the car.

You know, no matter how angry or hurt Suky is, I notice that he is always so respectful, caring, and loving with Jongnam. He is such a good husband. Oh, except he doesn't tell her about his liver. She finds the meds in the car. How much more can this girl take? She has a mother in law who hates her, who even tried to force her to have an abortion. She was orphaned and had no parents, siblings, family at all. She's been thru so much since this started. Now, she has to deal with her new husband's very serious illness. These two have really been thru so much.

On to another disk... lol

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I came back to the den to watch the next installment , sand I have to say that I find it really shocking that Sukhyun is not telling Jongnam anything about 1) his job status and 2) his health . She has to find out from Jaeman that he quit his job , and how do you think that would feel as a newlywed to know that he is not telling her ANYTHING . Add to that the personality change , and I would wonder what the heck ( at the very least ) was up .

From Sukhyun;s angle , I find it very sad that he has to carry these burdens alone because if that were a real diagnosis in a real person it would be scary beyond belief . I get why he is doing it , but I also think that he doesn't know how to share his troubles with anyone .

His behavior to Minsook is insufferable , and I am not sure I can give him a pass . Sure[iIknow what is going on in his mind , but to Jongnam , Haein and Minsook he is looking like an idiot ( or an apple that didn't fall far from the Nara tree )

Speaking of idiots , Okdoo's ex falling in the shower was a given from the beginning , and I don't believe he really hurt himself either . But I suppose ByunDoo hasn't thrown him out because of EunBin .

Jaedo : I wonder if he hears himself when he says stuff to Minsook about Sukhyun . Does he not see that Sukhyun doesn't come to their house anymore ? Why is he always catering to Nara ? I guess
the only one with sense out of Gram's 3 kids is Jaeok . Of course , she knows what Sukhyun owes Jaeman and Nara , but she doesn't look at Nara through rose colored glasses at least.

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I had a week between episodes and I have to say I really enjoyed this one . Even when the characters are annoying , the story grabs my interest every time . I just love these characters ( even the ones
 I hate , I guess )

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Sukhyun and Jongnam have settled into their new life as newlyweds , but unfortunately , Sukhyun still doesn't share much of his truth with her - or anyone . He knows he is gravely ill .but he himself doesn't really know why as he has no clue that he had surgery as a baby . Jongnam finds a stash of pills in the
car and he tells her he has gastritis .

She goes and researches foods that are good for the stomach and cooks a big meal for him . She tries but I don't see how anyone could win over the implacable Nara .

I love Gram - when she goes to yell at Nara because of Kiwoong and Sukhyun both leaving Well Being
she yells at Nara as no one else can - and Nara has to take it !! Gram finds out that Sukhyun and Jongnam are married and gets madder because she thinks the whole family knew but her . Well no one knew there was no formal wedding for people to attend .

Thankfully , Okdoo 's slimy ex was only in briefly and I don't much like the kid either because he is firmly in cahoots with his father . Of course he is only about 6 , and he probably only thinks about his parents back together ......

Nara has decided to divorce all the males in her family , so she accept 's Sukhyun's resignation and files divorce papers on Jaeman . It is kind of hard to think how those two stayed together all those years anyway but Nara is isolating herself from everyone , and we don't see people lining up to become
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for anyone following this little thread , we have taken a small break as nelli is out of town . I will keep you all posted

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So sorry I've been AWOL so long. So much going on. Anyway, hopefully I'm back on track and we can finish this off. SO close to the end.

All I can say about this episode is that it's super irritating. Okdoo's ex just makes me sick. He is such a loser. I hate hate hate that she goes back to him. He's a worthless lump of crap. So disgusting watching him fake illness/injury to stay in that house. And how he uses his son to manipulate those people is just horrid.

Next is irritation with granny. She makes everything about herself. Oh pitiful me, you all knew and didn't tell me. I should just die. I'm not needed. Blah blah blah. What a big baby!!!!!

And then Nara. She's pushed everyone away who doesn't agree with her, or do as she tells them to. I so wish the ending would just have her sitting alone, older, in that big house, with no one but her miserable memories. I will never find words in the English language to describe this woman. She wants a divorce. Good. Should have done that with the first affair he had. But now, you can get rid of all the Chang's at once.

Lastly, I don't like how Suky is keeping the truth about his illness from Jongnam. He wouldn't like her doing that to him so..... She finds out next episode. Getting unbearable now to watch. lol but I'll keep going. emoticon

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Got thru another.. Funny, earlier episodes I could barely stop from going on and on thru episodes. Now it's hard to finish even one. So much trouble going on in BB Land.

It shows Nara, sitting in her living room, with no one except the TV to keep her company. She deserves that!

Granny is out and getting madder and madder at everything going on. She catches Jaeman at Jaeoks and finds out about the divorce Nara wants.

Jongnam finds out about Suky's liver.

Kiwoong scolds Suky about how he treated Minsook over the food. That was a bit mean of Suky. But I felt sorry for Suky because of being rejected by his beloved mother; lying to Jongnam, and resigning from his job. And he is taking the blame for his parents divorcing. And on top of it all he knows he has a fatal liver disease. Didn't like anyone mad at him. So sad

Even tho the end is near, we have some tough times ahead. emoticon


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First of all , I apologize it has taken me so long to get back here . What with the holiday and a lot of personal stuff going on , I just couldn't spare the time .

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I agree with you , nelly . Sometimes it is very hard to keep watching . I was thinking I have never known anyone like Nara and I hope I never do . She is really unbelievable in the way she treats others .
I sort of kind of understand her feelings re Jaeman , but I don't think she could have a maternal bone in her body since she is so ready to write off Sukhyun because he did not do as she orchestrated .

She is totally unbelievable - and then when she accused Jaedo and Minsook of taking money for Sukhyun . I'll bet the patriarch of the Chang clan ( Gram's husband ) was a real pip .

But just because he was an apparent scumbag doesn't mean that the rest of the Changs are unscrupulous !

Sadly both Sukhyun and Jongnam have secrets from each other and we are left in suspense about Jongnam's visit to the hospital and an apparent abortion so that she can be the donor for her husband

as Nelly says , I have had enough for one day but I will come back tomorrow for the next episode


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OK , I didn't realize I ended up watching 2 episodes last night instead of one and I got them all mixed up .... I 'll let Nelly's comments stand for both of us rather than ruminating some more about Nara's behavior . I'm sure I've said it before but I think Dr Freud would have a field day

It is also horrible to have people such as Jaedo and Minsook accused of selling Sukhyun for money . They are beyond mortified and anyone who would think that really doesn't know who they are .

It turns out Gram didn't know either , and I believe her . I'm glad we don't have to know the dad of the Chang family . I'm sure I wouldn't like him anymore than Nara .Anyway , I am going to work later today so I went ahead and watched the next episode - and I am hooked again .

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Jongnam has gone for the abortion in order to be the liver donor for Sukhyun . She has great difficulty with this decision and luckily Jaeok comes to the hospital , gets wind of what is going on and stops it .

They go home to find Sukhyun collapsed and he is rushed to the hospital . I can only hope that all the secrets are going to come out now . I think Jongnam was totally within her rights to give it to Sukhyun " How long were you planning to keep this from me ? "

Nara is refusing to go see him - and I am like " do what ever you want " I hope people are done jumping through flaming hoops trying to make her happy .

Jongnam tells Sukhyun she want to get an abortion in order to be the donor and of course he doesn't like that idea . I think he would rather die than give up their baby , and Jongnam says she can't live without him .

I am ignoring the Okdoo and her ex part , but Kiwoong appears to be getting an investor ......



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Read your comments. Before I go on to 153 (and beyond) just wanted to agree about Nara. She 'thinks' she is a great mother to Suky but in reality their lives were just, HER making all the decisions about his life and HIM going along. Since he was always so agreeable to whatever she said, the relationship was peaceful and appeared loving. She already hated Jongnam, and looked down on her. So for Suky to fall in love with her, and then go against her to be with Jongnam, it must have turned her previously controlled world up side down.

Nara doesn't understand what being a parent is. It's not being the one in charge all the time. It's like any other relationship really.... GIVE AN TAKE.... GIVE AND TAKE. She think because she has money and owns that home shopping business, that she has some right to make all the decisions for everyone. And because she helped save Suky's life as a baby, she thinks she owns him as well. I think Nara is a twisted, controlling, uncaring, self centered monster. She's turned her back on her son, whom she always bragged about, for not following her rules/demands.

OK, I'll go watch more. But it ain't easy!!

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