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K-Drama: 신의 (Faith)


SBS 2012 Fantasy Drama

Begins Monday, September 24, 2012. Mon–Tues. from 9:15p–10:30p. Station LA18.1

(Replaces: The Chaser)

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Title: 신의 (信義) / Shineui
Also known as: The Great Doctor (神醫)
Genre: Historical, romance, time travel, fantasy
Episodes: 24
Director: Kim Jong Hak
Screenwriter: Song Ji Na
Homepages: SBS (Korean); DramaWiki; AsianWiki

Synopsis (DramaWiki)

This drama shows the romance between a warrior from the ancient times and a female doctor from the modern times, their love transcending time and space. It will also tell the story about the process of making a true king. --HanCinema

Cast and Characters

    Lee Min Ho as Choi Young
    Kim Hee Sun as Yoo Eun Soo
    Yoo Oh Sung as Gi Cheol
    Lee Philip as Jang Bin
    Ryu Duk Hwan as King Gong Min
    Park Se Young as Princess Nogook
    Sung Hoon as Chun Eum Ja
    Shin Eun Jung as Hwa Soo In
    Lee Byung Joon as Jo Il Sin
    Baek Gwang Doo (백광두) as Baek Choong Suk
    Kim Jong Moon (김종문) as Oh Dae Man
    Jung Yoo Chan (정유찬) as Joo Suk
    Kang Chang Mook (강창묵) as Deol Bae
    Yoon Kyun Sang (윤균상) as Deok Man
    Kim Soo Yun as Deo Gi
    Kim Mi Kyung as Court lady Choi
    Kwon Min as Ahn Do Chi
    Ahn Jae Wook as Eun-Soo's ex-boyfriend (ep.1)


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The Time Traveling bandwagon of K-Drama continues this year - Rooftop Prince, Queen InHyun's Man, Dr. Jin, etc.. - and now Faith.

This is from the Director (as well as the writer) of the fabled Sandglass, and same Director of The Legend.

Like Bridal Mask, this is getting a huge, huge amount of hype and buzz in the English viewer sphere. Although in Korea, ratings are somewhat disappointing (with the three networks almost tied, with MBC's Golden Time in the lead) given the big budget of this series.

This almost looks like a live adaptation of Anime, with the really stylized and some androgynous looking characters... some really weird looking get-ups though, like Yu Oh-Seong in the white robe with really huge and goofy collar.... then there's this...

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The trailer looks good though, at least in terms of it showing that it's a bigger than the average K-Drama budget production. While this will be strictly fantasy, hopefully it's not too over the top or silly as that still shot above suggests.




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Upon seeing the 1st episode, I honestly thought it was a historical drama (the k-drama genre that HATE with a passion), but because it stars Lee Min Ho, my favorite actor, I decided to give this one a try. It wasn't too bad at the beginning, but you could only imagine my joy once he went into the future and I found out there and then that this was a time drama, like Rooftop Prince emoticon

Honestly, the funniest part for me was when the protagonist women said that she could only treat the Queen's cut if she saw it herself, and Min Ho proceeded to slice the guard on the neck; me and my dark humor xD Like Rooftop Prince, it was really entertaining to see how he dealt with traffic in his first ever contact with traffic/cars, and dealing with the time differences in general. I found the electricity and magic stuff silly, like something out of a Fantasy C-Drama, but had a good laugh when I found out that he knew magic xD

I thought the time portal disappeared once Min Ho went to the future, so I was suspecting that he was going to be stuck in the present like Rooftop Prince, but glad that I was wrong and there'd be no repetition since the portal appeared again. Great 1st episode; can't wait to see them go back in time.

& yes SupeRookie my thoughts exactly about the Anime adaption, and laughed at the white haired anime character when I 1st saw him in the opening credits xD Oh the fun you get out of a drama when you know very little about it beforehand.

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I'm neutral on the first episode of Dr. JIN-ette emoticon ... er I mean, Faith.

Right now it seems like the networks are totally losing out to the cable stations in this vein of genre (appealing to females in the teens to thirties demographic) like (Rooftop Prince, Dr. Jin, Faith)... vs. for example, the much better, and universally acclaimed tvN offering of Queen In Hyun's Man. Rooftop Prince, Dr. Jin and Faith seem to be spending a lot of their budget on paying for more well known actors/actresses... but the content on the other hand suffers. Queen In Hyun's Man is much more modest in budget with less big time stars, but has the content and looks to shine. The same problem happened with Love Rain, maybe if they spent more of the budget on the actual show, the writing, and production, instead of spending most of the money on a popular actor/actress, the series would be better.

As far as Faith - There are some interesting concepts and historical borrowings, but it's so far diluted and mangled with the Records of the Three Kingdoms, as some basis of a connection to the 1000 years into the future, at around the year 1300, into the real thick of the series then with the whole time traveling aspect to bring back a Doctor... that the historical basis is better left forgotten at this point - It's window dressing at best for the intended audience most likely, so it probably doesn't matter what the content basis is.

Like Dr. Jin, a doctor from the future will save what can't be done in the past. While the production values in this one are significantly better, so far there's not much substance to this one; Dr. Jin highly flawed as it is, and at times melodramatic cheese, at least had those cerebral moments, moments of substance and intellectual wonder. I suspect Faith will be more like the summer blockbuster movies, lots of spectacle, but not much underneath. Still, it's only the first episode so I'm going to give it a chance to develop.

So far I'm finding a hard time caring about anything in the series, the characters or what took place. There were some cool moments to show the high budget flair of the series, like the initial action scene with the attack on the King and Princess, as well as when Choi Young (Lee Min Ho) used his energy attack that was akin to Dragon Ball's Kamehameha, but after that flash in the pan... I'm left wanting on whatever else happened in this episode.

The ending was pretty underwhelming, CY flicks a stick at his subordinate while half asleep to demonstrate his combat superiority that he can handle his subordinate without even trying. Understood. However, from a presentation standpoint, that's all? It was incredibly mundane. Not sure what that final scene showed that would encourage viewers to watch the next episode. Nothing apparently, given the second episode ratings dropped in Korea vs the first episode.

A few good and bad, and a lot of so-so. I'll give this several episodes before forming a more solid judgement though. Hoping it gets better...


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Yes, I thought the ending was also sort of bad with Choi young merely flicking a stick at his subordinate half asleep, followed by epic music xD I was like, "wait, that's it?" It would have been better if they did the rewind a bit earlier and ended with the intense staredown between Choi Young and the women in front of the portal; that scene got chills down my spine :3

Even though I'm a HUGE fan of action K-Dramas, I found it ironic that the comedy is what stood out most about this series.

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EnigmaXII, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when they get back into the past, since the bad guys are there, hopefully some action scenes will help pick things up.

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After watching Ep. 1, I preferred the second half to the first. There wasn't a whole lot of substance in the first episode, but let's see where it goes from here.

What I like so far.... Lee Min Ho is the most interesting—and I'm not a big fan of his. I like him cast in this role, however. I do like the supernatural effects—the energy from his hands, the whirling hole through time. I also like seeing him as a serious warrior dealing with life in Seoul 2012. It's a nice change from the other time travelers and the comedic way they've been handled in previous dramas.

It's probably a good thing that I haven't watched anime or get caught up in the historical accuracies of historical dramas. This way, what I'm seeing is fresh and I have nothing with which to compare and be unhappy. I can just watch this one as a standalone story. If it's interesting, I'll like it. If it's not, then it's just another boring dud.

I was very surprised to see Ahn Jae-Wook in the elevator during the flashback to the 10 days prior in Yoo Eun-Soo's life. Wasn't expecting that one!
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Does anyone know where I could watch Episode 1 of this?


Edit: Removed site reference. Please see the post below. Thanks. -SuperRookie

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Kittypaws,

Was there a Ahn Jae-Wook bat sign in the sky? emoticon Yep, as nchristi mentioned above, he has a brief cameo in the first episode!

That site has been shut down for copyright violation. We have stuck thread in the C-Drama, J-Drama, K-Drama forums with a brief rundown of what's going on, including an announcement thread with more info about it and our new policy as a forum: http://bcjkdramasincalifornia.runboard.com/t169776

If anyone has any questions about that or the new policy, please feel free to post in the above link to our announcement thread for this.

Faith can be viewed through DramaFever: http://www.dramafever.com/drama/4123/1/Faith/

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Thank you, SuperRookie. You can take those links off now if you need to. . .I don't know if putting them in violates the new policy, but wouldn't want you to get in trouble. I got Faith, and also made note of the other places we can find dramas. Really appreciate it.
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Episode 2

Now the drama turned back into a historical drama, this was my true test to whether I like this drama or not (again, extremely against the genre emoticon). I noticed that I usually got bored/dozed off whenever there was a scene without Choi Young or the doctor in it. I remember specifically, the scenes with the red hangbok guys with tall black hats really confused me; I had no idea what they were talking about or why they mentioned Choi Young. I'm also biased against old characters btw, other than 1 or 2 actors xD

However, this episode, I also took a liking to that spikey haired kid with the parkour abilities xD Speaking of which, I noticed that he served as a translator as well. I was confused why some scenes didn't have subtitles at 1st and noticed that some characters weren't speaking Korean. What are they speaking? Is it some sort of Archaic version of Korean or what?

Of course, I got angry when Choi Young preferred to follow orders than keep his promise, but I guess there wouldn't be a storyline without that scene emoticon You'd think that they would make another portal later...

Also, just a little something I noticed. When the women doctor and historical period doctor were working together, I noticed she said "tie, cut.... tie, cut... [etc.]" in English, which made me chuckle because Koreans were never even exposed to the language during whatever period they are in xD

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EnigmaXII, on your language question, based on the little we've seen and of history, my guess is likely Mongolian. Chinese is another possibility but based on what we've seen in the episode is somewhat ruled out though given she doesn't understand the villagers nor they her (with her attempts at communicating in Chinese and English). The other characters of the time frame, the King's men, are "supposedly" speaking in Middle Korean (she understands that and they understand her modern variation).

Well, I wouldn't use this series as a metric of good historical dramas, per your comments on getting bored without Choi Young or the doctor or your bias against the old characters as you say... because I too felt the same way, but for different reasons. This is trying to be a jack of all trades series - part fusion period drama (I don't like to attach the word Historical in this series, since there's really not much Historical here) but also trying to be contemporary and hip in attracting that key younger female demographic. In my view, it isn't doing the former very well... the period portions, I mean. All the stuff with the old characters as you say, the politicians... even for me, they aren't very interesting to me either, in this series. I blame the watered-down writing/presentation where they are trying to sacrifice some elements to try to gain in other areas, but can't quite juggle all things at all times.

Queen In Hyun's Man did a great job at doing both, excelling in both the period setting and in the modern, contemporary setting. I wonder why a smaller budgeted series like that looks so much better, with better action scenes and production values. Although as great as that looked and sounded, it took me a few episodes before I got hooked. That's one of the reasons I'm going to give Faith a lot of episodes to hook me, but so far... indifferent on this one.

I agree, right now, Choi Young and the doctor are the centers of the show... the rest are just window dressing, so far anyway. Although, Ki Cheol, played by one of my favorites, Yu Oh-Seong is a very talented actor - hopefully they've given him enough meat and the room to shine, given it'll be a villain's role, he could add much needed interest (at least for me).

As with the last episode, I found myself mostly indifferent, until towards the last portions - the best parts of the episode for me was after the King's guards went after Eun-Soo and the event where Choi Young essentially falls on his sword for going back on his good word, that scene and the events after with ES trying to save his life were the better parts of the episode for me. ES had several lines and moments where I found myself laughing and entertained.

The ending moment was again lackluster. It's like some high-schooler with Movie Maker's idea of directing/editing video clips.... there's no narrative or tension to the ending. It just ends awkwardly... like the director thought, okay our broadcast time limitation ends here, let's cut it here and continue episode 3 on another file. emoticon For me, the effective ending was when the episode picked up, when CY was pierced with his sword. It's almost like that was the true ending of the episode, but they had extra time as a result of perhaps cutting out too many other prior scenes? Who knows what's going on here...

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Episode 2

I enjoyed this more than the first one. Story is becoming more involved. Eun-Soo's foray into the past, trying to adjust to the lack of modern conveniences she had in the 2012 world, is entertaining. It's also amusing to see Choi Young walking around with his riot shield from 2012 Seoul police. How cool would that have been!

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This one is really stupid. LOL I'm not into anime, so I don't get all the references. I'm not into fantasy--the time travel was OK in Star Trek, but not caring for it here. The only thing that was slightly funny was the modern doctor trying to get bars on her cell phone. I couldn't get into Lovers of Haeundae, so thought I'd try this one. The only thing I liked, besides that above, was Lee Min Ho (and the queen when she faced down the king). I suppose he can't really look bad! I watched for 5 minutes, turned it off, came back, switched channels. I would really like a good drama with some reason to watch. This one isn't it.
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nchristi, I have to admit, I got a kick in seeing him lug that riot shield around through the episode. LOL!

Hyena, it's probably better you're not into anime or fantasy, it makes this feel fresher, whereas I'm in the jaded category. Well, I don't really mind derivative (I still really enjoy the dailies and family series where they have that intentionally conservative approach to their storylines and don't exactly explore out of the box approaches as much as the shorter series). I'm just looking for a story or characters to care about.

Surprised you didn't enjoy Lovers of Haeundae as I thought that would be totally up your alley. Sorry to hear you don't enjoy either offering on the Mon-Tues nights. I guess you'll have to wait until LoH is over for Oohlala Couple - other than that, the next ones will be a lot of heavy drama oriented series.

It's a shame your provider doesn't carry MBCDigital/LA18.3... most of us are enjoying the rom/com, I Do, I Do. As far as fantasy goes, I'm highly excited to see Arang and the Magistrate after I Do finishes... getting lots of praise and hype.

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I watched some of this drama but can't say it is a winner yet. I am not sure there is anything historical about thie story at all. The only thing that rang a bell for me was when the king, who is very non-regal by the way, was saying that his Mongolian wife did not appreciate being married off to a man from Goryeo. The only Princess who married a Korean king was the one in' Shindon' which was a real epic and one I wish we could see again. that was a real history and a great cast and I really want to watch that one again. The present drama is funny and farcical and will not be too heavy I think. The female doctor is a light weight actress IMO. Min Ho is quite heroic and very upright as a warrior. It still seems silly to me that he would impale himself on his own sword just because he made a promise. It does not make any sense except to open up another operation/surgery in difficult circumstances. I think they are all in Mongolia and speaking that language. Must be on the way back to Korea. If they do return to Korea will they still be able to open the 'heavenly gate' to get the doctor back home. Interesting problem.
It's all a bit silly but not to be worried about.
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Two posters have mentioned that Choi Young impaled himself on his sword. Even though Eunsoo was the one with the sword in her hands, are you saying that the 'force' that ran the blade through him was Choi Young's own will, punishing himself for not keeping his word? I must have missed something in the very beginning. What, exactly, is the source of Choi Young's supernatural powers?
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I think Peg was suggesting that Choi Young's motivations were contrived by the writers to have an intentional surgery (drama) for dramatic purpose rather than being a believable promise. I guess at this point it depends on how much we view Choi Young's sense of honor for someone he just met (and of his guilt of dragging her into this time) vs his own honor vs his duties to the King and country.

In that scene, I don't believe there was any supernatural event. She clumsily darted with the sword towards him, and he intentionally didn't avoid it. After that he grabbed the sword/her hands to thrust the sword deeper into him. Eunsoo was shocked and immediately asked him, that he could have avoided this... why, she asked him?

We don't know the extent of Choi's full powers yet or who exactly have these powers (since what we've seen so far is limited), right now we know he has an energy attack through electric energy/lightning that comes from Ki or Chi (energy force) - in episode 1 he used this same power of energy transfer to control the bloodflow of the princess.

Here is a good webpage that might be of help to understand this process as it relates to this Ki stuff (and like episode 1's Kamehameha energy wave at the police): http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ki This is a DB anime page page, but the information applies to a lot of fantasy storylines (beyond anime) throughout Asian media.


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Hi, nchristi. The sword was being held by the "heavenly" doctor, when the Lee Min Ho character grabbed it and shoved it into his body. Apparently, the king didn't want the heavenly doctor to go back, but Lee Min Ho (sorry, don't know the character's name yet) had promised her that he would send her back. So, he went against the king's command, but, as a warrior, he was honor bound to do as he had promised. A quandary. He solved it by killing himself.

I regret saying this was a stupid drama. After watching Big, and being disappointed, I think I wanted something that was rooted in reality and with depth and perception. I think I just need to stick with something and think about the story, etc. My apologies.
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class blockquote hyena wrote:
I think I wanted something that was rooted in reality and with depth and perception. I think I just need to stick with something and think about the story, etc. My apologies.
No need to apologize hyena. The great thing about entertainment, K-Dramas, etc. is its ability to touch our emotions sometimes to make us happy, and sometimes not so much. Sometimes the context of the atmosphere or even real life can dictate our feelings or perceptions of a given series.

If you want something more rooted in reality with depth... of the new shows coming soon (with the channels you have), you may want to check out in two weeks the Wed-Thurs replacement of Bridal Mask (ends next week), it's called The Innocent Man and it's getting rave reviews - looks like it could be a real winner with depth and quality. I'm highly anticipating this one.

Also on the weekend, end of October the new KBS family drama looks potentially interesting, My Daughter Seo Young. Other than that, the next new series on the KBS and SBS local channels will be in November.


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