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MKana
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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)
Thanks Nchristi, I would never thought to report video problem. I am so new at this online viewing, still have much to learn to navigate through the site. I did go back and take a look and yes they are working now. For a second I thought I am losing it and look at a different drama previously, but I remember the pictures of Kim Seung So and Song Il Gook last time.
On the subject of MBC, this happens a lot during the day on the cable channels, but I thought only because those are old programs. MBC did it to Lee San and most recently Queen Seon Duk. I rarely watch MBC or SBS because their programs are not consistently subbed. Occasionally when I saw historical shows that I've heard of and want to watch and record, MBC would show some episodes and than discontinued in the middle of the series and showing some other programs, even when the tv guide still list the names of the original shows. It seems that this also happens to currently aired nightly programs.
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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)
Well MBC seems to be missing most of the time. Now there is another channel which is called Arirang and they have a very dull hospital/doctor show on at several strange times during the day and the evening. The English subs are being shown along with Spanish subs which I hope won't heppen if there is a drama worth watching.Too busy on the screen. They also advertise subs in several languages. It's all very different. I also notice that some programs on a few of the Asian channels are very old shows. I do mean OLD...months and more. this I find truly annoying. At the moment only the Japanese channels are fresh content. I pay extra for these channels.
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10/22/2011, 1:29 am
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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)
Let's move this MBC and Arirang TV discussion over to the MBC thread recently created. Please go here.
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10/22/2011, 2:28 pm
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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)
From last night's episode: So the mysterious masked man who appeared and in league with the Prime Minister is the same martial arts expert one who saved the princess and DoYoung. At first it looked like those thugs who were after the princess sent from the PM.... seemed like the PM's puppets left hand doesn't know what it's right hand (masked man) was doing, but it looks like both were part of a larger plot that the PM is hatching.
It'll be interesting to see what exactly the mysterious martial arts expert's grudge is, why he wants revenge against Damdeok and why he's taking orders from the PM. He does not appear to be a bad person though, when the khitan scouts were going after the peasants he stepped into their rescue. He seems like an interesting warrior and complex character character - as far as I'm concerned is a welcome new addition to this storyline.
At the end of the episode where Damdeok gathered the troops, that scene looked so familiar, I'm thinking I've seen that gate in Dae Jo Young, but it's been years so I'm not sure where exactly I've seen it before.
After the climactic episodes with Dammang's death two weeks ago, the series has lost some momentum as it now changes gears into the next arc of the storyline - hopefully this new phase won't take too long to develop.
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Re: K-Drama: 광개토대왕 (廣開土太王) (Gwanggaeto, The Great Conqueror)
Although this story is based on historical fact, I believe, the facts have been fractured to make this series more interesting to the general public.
I would like it much better if the actress who played Bonji was not the PM's daughter. She is such a shallow actress as is the princess which is apparent when you watch the scenes with the other young actresses. As far as the Crown Prince, his sneering makes him appear to be more evil than righteous.
Comparing this show to the earlier history shows and the Japanese history shows, it pales in comparison in both the acting and the writing.
I just fast forward the entire show.
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10/23/2011, 8:30 pm
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MKana
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SuperRookie, you're right the drama does slow down a bit but it seems normal to me, since this is a long drama. The new character is interesting. I found his martial art convincingly good. His movements are more martial art like and more fun to watch than the prince, though Damdeok looks more powerful. And the new guy is also good looking, and I like the red mask, how creative. In today episode he mentioned about ..the blood of a Guguryeo general in him. my guess is that there was a misunderstanding in the past, his father possibly was wrongly charged. The PM took the opportunity to fuel the fire and turn him to the dark side. The scene in tonight episode where he jumped to the fortress reminded me of a scene I saw in a Hong Kong TVB Wuxia genre series based on novels by Lous Cha twenty some years ago. In that scene the main character skydived solo and managed to open the fortress. That was the last time I watched an ancient/historical series, until now.
You mentioned some scenes from Saturday's episode that reminded you of Dae Jo Young. I've read previously from other boards that many scenes (set, props, battles, fortress..) are similar to Dae Jo Young. Also, according to these posts, a lot of veterans from Dae Jo Young also start in Gwanggaeto. Since you seem like the residence expert on historical dramas and since this is the first historical that I follow from the beginning, allow me to ask if you would rate this (Gwanggaeto) and Dae Jo Young series on a scale of 1 to ten. This is actually not a fair request since the series is only up episode 28. On the other hand you can revise it at the end too.
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10/23/2011, 11:23 pm
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I really enjoyed last night's episode with all the action scenes, the duel between Damdeok and the new character; then later on the way this mysterious warrior scaled the walls and kicked some serious behind to breach the gate was awesome! When he was opening the gates he was in a soliloquy moment as if talking to his father about being General being in his blood, perhaps his father is one of the military officers that died early on in the series, and somehow he blames Damdeok for it. As the episode progressed, it seemed like he was gaining respect for Damdeok's courage and putting the nation first, even above his own life.
The chief of Khitan showed up and if I'm not mistaken, I believe he is being played by Choi Il Hwa. Can anyone confirm? It was hard for me to be 100% sure with his costume and all, but I sure hope it's him. He's an excellent actor.
Yes they are definitely taking some liberties with the historical aspects of the story for entertainment value. It doesn't bother me personally since for me entertainment and enjoyability is paramount, while historical fidelity is just an icing on the cake.
MKana Yeah that's definitely true. Every long series I've seen definitely has its hills and valleys, ups and downs. Interesting points of views that you brought up on the recent character and events, and I agree. The scene you mentioned definitely has a lot of its roots in chinese based action/kung fu series in the choreography, I was glad to see it used last night to spice up the action.
When the series first started some pages ago, I mentioned one of the things that hooked me into the series was seeing a lot of familiar actors that I really enjoyed from Dae Jo Young. After years of not seeing them in one screen at the same time, it was a nostalgic bonus for me.
It's hard for me to grade this series at this time given what I'm assuming the great parts of this series, when Damdeok becomes king hasn't happened yet. I remember the previous series to this one, King of Legends/Geunchogo was extremely inconsistent up to the episode 30s, but after he became King the story got quite better and by the end most of us rather enjoyed that series. For me, Gwanggaeto is a lot better since I like the location shots, action scenes, main character, music, and supporting characters in this one more than the previous one. My opinion on this series changes week to week though, ask me one week and I'll give you a positive answer, another week I might be a bit disappointed. LOL! Comparing this to Dae Jo Young is hard given that over time I think it's natural for us to romanticize and remember the good things - for example Jumong, now I tend to remember the good things about it, but I remember vividly how many of us in this forum, myself included, found towards the end the series fell apart so badly that it was just ... a disaster. After that series, AZN TV network aired Dae Jo Young and it was a breath of fresh air after the disappointing aspects of Jumong. From what I remember, the Historical club of this forum and AZN Viewers in very large part adored DJY, and what's amazing is that DJY had 134 episodes, for a historical drama to hold our attention that long, it was pretty special!
So Dae Jo Young for me was significantly better, at least if I had to compare this show to my recollection of DJY years ago, and DJY does have Choi Soo Jong... as far as I'm concerned, the best Historical Warrior actor. The great thing about DJY was the very strong supporting cast, and Lee Duk Hwa was also in it in an excellent role.
The one thing I find lacking in Gwanggaeto, outside Damdeok there is no other powerful, screen grabbing character as a counterpoint... at least so far. Emperor of the Sea, DJY, Jumong (sometimes anyway lol) had that in spades.
Also I'm sending you a PM. Thanks.
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SuperRookie, I like your post and am one of those who is in agreement with you. The long historical dramas are so lengthy they need a charismatic leader on whom to focus. And there was none better than Choi Su-Jong in Dae Jo Young because he is an excellent actor in any performance and played the part so perfectly. DJY remains the benchmark for me, plus it was the first historical drama for me, and you never forget your first love.
I like and have stuck with this one, The Great King G, because Damdeok is also , to some extent, rather charismatic and a strong character. Again, the core focus is easier to follow.
You also pointed out in an earlier post that these long historical dramas differ somewhat from period dramas. The latter are shorter and focus more on individuals' storylines than the vast epoch of historical conquest. So there is more drama involved, more costumes, more sets, etc., invoking life in those times. The Princess' Man and Dong Yi are good, satisfying dramas along those lines.
Being more lacking in knowledge of actual Korean history than some, I am oblivious if the storyline differs from true historical events. As is said,, "ignorance is bliss." My only sources of this brave country's early history are these dramas and Wikipedia. But certainly have captured my heart.
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Well said, enjoyed reading your points of view Kittypaws!
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Ep 29-30, we are at half way through this long drama out of 60 episodes per Dramawiki. A few interesting events plus preview of episode 31 at the end, promise to keep my level of interest till the end of this drama. First of, now that the identity of the mystery man is revealed, whether he will turn good is to be seen. He is one good actor though, hope he will go with Damdeok. Second Damdeok encounter with potential love interest number 3, Seol Ji, looks interesting. A dramatic rescue that would flutter a girl's heart, a much more romantic encounter, compared to a drunken Do Yeong. Somehow I see a more compatible energy and chemistry between Damdeok and Seol Ji, with both fierce warrior eyes, and sometimes ruthless energy. All three girls are very pretty, though personally, I prefer the gentle and sweet faces of Do Yeong and Yak Yeon. Third, the PM has reached the point of no return. To me any father who is confronted by his daughter questioning his moral standing would waver; it does not look like he will. I sense some thing very troubling for Do Yeong. She pretty much bares her soul as to her feelings for the prince, and he seems distance. She is also at a crossroad with her own father. Fourth, the preview introduces a new character, Asin, nephew of King Jinsa. SuperRookie, I believe the writer just answer to your request, an opponent to Damdeok, worthy or not remain to be seen. Does anyone happen to know this actor name? At first glance, he seems to have the good look, and a quiet charisma. I will have to stay tune to find out.
At this mid point, I can preliminary sum up my reasons, for keep watching this drama: Oh Ji Eun, definitely; Lee Tae Gon, partially; story line, totally, other cast members, great casting, I like very much most of these supporting roles.
Happy Halloween to all.
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