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I find it so interesting to learn about all sides and ramifications to issues such as this. Thanks for sharing thoughts from your student, Tangpriest. So much to know, so many factors we're unaware of or that are easily overlooked, and so difficult to sort out and weigh these issues, isn't it?

As for "who pays," isn't it always the people? Government isn't some rich dude with deep pockets that can be forced to pay for something. Government gets its $$$ by taxing the people. Business passes on its expenses to the consumers (the people). No matter how emotional the arguments, ultimately it is the citizenry who pays for everything.

A side issue still remaining on my list of reading is that of the S. Korean government paying for the relocation of the U.S. troops from the DMZ. Is it Bush's administration or the S. Korean government (or both) who wants the U.S. presence relocated and S.K. to pay for it? And what are the opposing positions on this?
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nchristi,

If you have the time, you might be interested in the book by Bruce Cumings, Korea's Place in the Sun: A Modern History. I haven't finished yet, but it gives good insight into what makes Korea tick, where it's been, and where it's going. I bought my copy through Amazon. Also, if you check http://www.koreanfilm.com, sometimes people post about current issues going on in korea. It's a fantastic site for discussion about korean film. Many of the posters are expats living in korea and people here in the states passionate about korean film and culture.

Edit by ccwf: Fixed link.

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But Has Korea ever been stable?

The only periods it was stable after 1849 was probably the thirty five year Japanese occupation from 1910 to 1945. From the ascension of King Taegwon in 1849 until the Japanese invasion of 1910 - Korea was constantly in imperial termoil, with emperors poisoning princes and palace coups. After 1945, Korea was invaded by the communists, student demonstrations, military coups, and then civilian corruption. Of course, the Japanese occupation might have been stable, but it also ended up spelling the deaths of over a million Koreans and also an attempt to destroy the Korean culture.

So no, Korea has never really been a stable place to live - though its quickly becoming one. But how will the relocation of the capital benefit this instead of wasting money of Korean taxpayers?
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Today from Chosun Ilbo:

The Constitutional Court ruled Thursday that the government’s capital relocation bill, a legal framework for moving the administrative capital out of Seoul, was unlawful. As a result, all related plans and capital relocation committee activities have been discontinued. President Roh Moo-hyun has suffered a serious political blow.

http://english.chosun.com/

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Wow. Is the Constitutional Court seen as an impartial one, or do you think they have a dog in this fight? I wonder if such am ambitious project, both phyically and emotionally, is really possible. My ignorance on China is showing here, but did they move their capital city in modern times? If so, did that work only because it was forced by an iron-clad government? I just can't imagine a "democratic" country attaining sufficient unity to make such a drastic cultural change.

Thanks for sharing the update, Tangpriest.
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Yes! Thank God! I was hoping it didn't work, and it completely collapsed. I'm glad Seoul was not moved - it would be ridiculous. They would be moving it to a rural town in the south - hardly something of a capital city. Glad us conservatives had the upper hand. And yes, the Constitutional Court is pretty much led by the conservative Grand National Party (hannara dang) and the Liberal Democrats, so they did have a large say in the matter.

China's capital after Chiang Kai Shek unified China in 1927 was moved to Nanking (now Nanjing) but when the city fell to the Japanese invaders in 1937, Shek moved it upstream to Chungking (now Chongqing). It remained there until the close of World War II in 1945, and then Shek moved it back to Nanjing. After China fell to the Communists in 1949, the capital was moved from Nanjing to Beijing - which was essentially the largest city still in the hands of the Chinese (Shanghai was really the largest city - but most of it was controlled by Europeans until the early 1950s). So yes, the Chinese have moved their capital in the last 100 years, but it was to a city which had formerly been the capital (Beijing had been the traditional capital of most later Chinese dynasties).

Today, the Republican regime on Taiwan regards Taipei as the PROVINCIAL capital (even though they plan to move the capital city to another small village inc entral Taiwan, but not if the Kuomintang wins in the Dec. legistlative elections) but they regard the official capital of the Republic of China to be Nanjing still. So, if for some reason, the government which will inevitably replace the communists is the old republican regime, the capital will prolly be moved from Beijing back to Nanjing, even though it is the 12th largest city in China today.
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