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Really? Well, that's not really fair. Because the International Channel airs some programming from other countries (Hungary, Romania, Russia, Afghanistan, Greece, and some other non-Asian nations)
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Well, they wouldn't stop showing the other content.

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HanadaTattsu wrote:

Are you talking about KSCI?

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Takara wrote:

nope. for me, it's KTSF.

KTSF and KSCI are obviously different channels (hence the different call letters emoticon). The International Channel is available nationally but only on cable and not on satellite.

The International Channel, KSCI, and KIKU (Hawaii) are all part of the same company (which has had various names). There's been talk that they and KTSF will join up to form and head a national network focusing on Asian programming.




Wow! Really, I have to look in on that. If that is true, then KTSF will announce something about it. I'm guessing that right now, things are still in the air.


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Yes, nothing definite at this point. Here's something about the talks from KSCI's web site.

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Well, I thought that if they were going to make some kind of an all-Asian station, I thought they would stop airing the other stuff, including the stuff on KSCI and KXLA (Armenian Teletime, Iranian Programming, that's all, I think) but let's hope not.
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i think the only chennel that ever aired asian series was int`l until ksci and channel 18 began its program. however. i do prefer taiwan over chinese.
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It's the nature of show business that many Taiwan television companies/production companies have gone to mainland China to film their products. Not unlike all manufacturing business in Taiwan--most have moved to mainland China to take advantage of its cheaper labor and huge market potential.

I think most of the Chinese (Mandarin) language dramas are joint-ventures. Perhaps the production team starts in Taiwan, then they scout for available Chinese language actors and actresses. In the old days, if there is a scene involving the Forbidden City, they would probably build a set and use existing footage of the Forbidden City. But with mainland Chinese cooperation, they can actually film in the Forbidden City.

Mainland China is a little behind in modern drama production because for the longest time, they were busy making propaganda films catered to the government. But with the advent of privatization and influx of money, the mainland Chinese demand more sophisticated drama. At the same time, the Taiwan TV/production companies are looking for talents and new stories. I think the first group of producers that went over to China is the team that produced the 還珠格格(Princess [Returning] Pearl) series. The writer's name is Chong2 Yao2 and she's like the Danielle Steele of Chinese Romance Novels (she used to be based in Taiwan). Her husband is the CEO of Crown Publishing Company and publishes all her books. They also have sole control of the TV rights to their books.

Because they have connections back in China, they decided to film 還珠格格(Princess [Returning] Pearl) in China to take advantage of its scenaries and probably its cheap labor and talent.

By using some mainland Chinese actors, you are guaranteed audience in China--imagine the number of people who will watch your show in China if it becomes popular!!!

To make the long story short, most of the Chinese dramas you see these days are joint-ventures between Taiwan, China, and maybe HK. But most of the Idol dramas that comes out of Taiwan is still Made In Taiwan (made with Taiwan backdrops and Taiwan actors, such as Mars, Secret Garden 1 and 2, Lavender, and Meteor Gardens 1 and 2 (Meteor Garden 2 used a Singaporean actress), etc....

If you are ever in doubt of what you are watching, just check the beginning of each thread. It should say whether it's a C-drama (for Chinese drama) or T-drama (for Taiwan drama).




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Yeah. I agree that most of the time it is a joint venture. But its also surprising to me to see that even though there is such a rough split between the current communist regime on the mainland and the ROC Taiwan authorities they are so united in entertainment. Right now, depending on which way you see it, you don't really need to care about whether the drama is Chinese or Taiwanese unless you are clarifying for cast purposes. It can be labeled Chinese, etc.
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These days....alot of big productions are Joint venture productions between China and Taiwan / Singapore/Hongkong.

For instance: Drama Heavenly Sword and Dragon Sabre (Yi Tien Tu Long Ji) in 2002 was a China, Taiwan and Singapore multi-million dollar joint venture........with a very impressive star-studded cast from Taiwan, China, Singapore.



Princess Returning Pearl was made in 1997 a co-production between Writer Qiong Yao and Hunan TV Station. Qiong Yao having a majority stake and say in the production. This venture was so successful...it continued for several series.....
Filmed in Wuxi Studio City........a mamonth tourist attraction cum Studio City ...... (alot of major productions are done there.........including all the HZKK series and Water Margin etc)

2 current series being filmed at Wuxi this moment include " My Bratty Princess"
and "The Drunken Beating of a Princess " Jui Da Jing Zi"

1) My Bratty Princess - starring Alec Su as the King and Korean Actress Jang Nara as the Bratty Princess.....This is a China and Taiwanese Joint Production and they hired South Korean Pop Princess Jang Nara for the role.(her maiden forray into China Drama)

2) Korean Actress Chaerim (in her 3rd Chinese Drama role) is the Princess Shen Ping to Hongkong Nick Cheung as her prince consort.This a HK's TVB station production ....filmed in China.


These production are usually made in China who offers the necessary talents with much lower production cost....as compared with filming in Taiwan HK or Singapore.

However these big-bugeted productions pays a princely sums to secure the stars with box office guarantees....and big bugets for costumes and sets......
This is where the money is for the top actors in the industry....as only these joint production can afford to pay that kind of money.
You get a pittance in a Taiwanese drama or a China drama....compared to these .



Things/drawbacks to note of these Joint productions:

1) to enable these to be telecast over prime time in China....(who have a protectionist policy on their home grown productions.)....there is a quota for the number of non Chinese actors/ production staff to be in the production and the directors must be mainland Chinese directors.
So foreign Directors usually work without credit for their work.
Mainland Chinese directors to put the names over the work to get pass this loophone.
 

2) Actors, directors/scriptwriters are not eligible for any film awards in these Joint Production. Unless its a wholly Taiwanese production (for Golden Bell Awards) or a Wholly China Production (for the Hundred Flower Awards etc).......

3) This situation also kinda explain why.....some of your favourite and deserving actors do not seem to be getting any acting awards for their work.................(they get handsomely paid instead...)



Of course, each Asian coungry have their own Drama Productions.....
weather you get to see this in California .........really depends on the person buying these drama for your TV station......


Singapore has great Chinese drama..........usually modern.......
The more successful ones usually have the flavour is very distictly Singaporean.
Its meant for Singaporean and enjoyed by Singaporeans.
There may be a cultural divide if this gets transprted overseas......
some of the values/understanding might be lost on someone unfamiliar with Singpaore and wat makes it tick.....

That would be a consideration........... for a US TV station.....to buy these.......

I can tell you ..........Singapore makes great documentaries.......
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I've watched a few episodes of the Singaporean drama, "The Voices Within." It indeed has a very distinctly Singaporean flavor (though its in Chinese).
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