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As I'm sure you're all aware, TV listings for foreign language programming are often sketchy or incorrect. The TiVo thread in the Tech Forum area includes instructions on how to submit corrections to Tribune Media Services, which does work sometimes; but sometimes my C/J/K TV listing error reports get misread or seem to be ignored.

(Tribune Media Services and Gemstar are the two major compilers of TV listings. TMS provides listings to many newspapers, including the Los Angeles Times; cable company programming guides; the Zap2It web site; DVRs like TiVo, ReplayTV, …; and internal entertainment industry use. Gemstar provides listings for TV Guide magazine and some cable guides and so forth.)

So, I asked TiVo if they, as a major TMS customer, could use their influence to help improve the quality of listings for foreign language programming, and they just agreed. (Yay, TiVo! emoticon)

TiVo's head listings guy asked for examples of current inaccuracies (“the more examples the better”), which he will forward to TMS's International Schedules Department along with a bunch of stuff I wrote up on the special problems with foreign language TV listings and how to improve TMS's handling of them in the future.

So, post as much detailed info as you can here about current foreign language programming listing errors and do it as soon as possible. After a few days, I will prepare and send TiVo a summary of the information gathered for them to pass along to TMS. Hopefully, that will bring much better results than the individual consumer reports people have been submitting until now.

Note that I'm soliciting information about listing errors and issues for all foreign language programming aired anywhere in the U.S., not just C/J/K dramas in California. That's why I've created this new, possibly temporary thread instead of cluttering up Sandy's schedule thread.

Also note that TMS maintains listings down to the minute (unlike TV Guide, which only lists them to the nearest five-minute boundary). So, if a program officially runs from 07:38 to 08:03, you can report that.

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KSCI Th 07:30–07:35 Kintetsu Travel Corner (corrected end time)
KSCI Th 07:35-08:00 Watashino Aozora (corrected start time)
KSCI M–F noon–13:30 My Jealous Wife, aka Jealousy in a Thousand Years of Romantic Love, aka Qian Gu Feng Liu Yi Tan Cu (now just listed as Mandarin Drama)
KSCI M,W,F 13:30–14:00,17:30–18:00 Tea Time is an interview show (now lacks genre info). Is the 17:30 showing a repeat? I don't know.
KSCI M,T,W,F 19:00–20:00 Th 19:00–19:30 Secret History of Royalty, aka Royal Prince, aka Hoang Tai Zi Mi Zhi (now just listed as Mandarin Drama)
KSCI Th 19:30–20:00 repeated Su 16:30–17:00 Quest, aka Quest USA is in Mandarin with English subtitles (now lacks language info)
KSCI M–F 20:30–21:00 Cute Women is a drama series (now bizarrely listed as a bunch of public affairs specials)
KSCI M,Tu 21:50–22:50 The Phoenix is a drama series (now listed as The Tea Lady, which ended)
KSCI W,Th 21:50–22:50 I Want to Get Married is a drama series (now listed as Match Made in Heaven, which ended)
KSCI F 21:50–22:50 Sunday, Sunday Night is a variety show (now listed as Korean Miniseries Drama)
KSCI Sa 21:00–22:00 Shinsengumi (incorrectly lists Wonderful Life)
KSCI Sa 22:30–23:30 Wonderful Life is a drama series in Japanese (now listed in the wrong time slot with this time slot now listed as containing a generic drama series plus paid programming)
KSCI Su 20:30–20:40 M,T,W,F 07:50–08:00 3 Min. Cooking (moved Sunday time slot, also now listed as being a Home and Garden show)
KSCI Su 20:40–22:00 Kawa, Itsuka Umi e, aka Kawa, Itsuka Umie, aka A River, Flowing Back to the Ocean (now listing Love Letter for part of this time slot; Love Letter is over)


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KXLA M–F 19:00–19:30 GNN@7 is a Japanese news show (now listed as part of a sponsored variety slot)
KXLA M–F 19:30–20:00 Wild Rose is a Korean drama series (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA M–F 20:00–20:25 KTE News is a Korean news show (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA M–F 20:25–21:00 One Million Roses is a Korean drama series subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA M–F 21:00–21:35 hard news in Korean (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA M,Tu 21:35–22:20 Sweet Love, aka many other titles is a Korean drama subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA W,Th 21:35–22:20 The Kiss of April is a Korean drama (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA Th 22:20–23:00 Happy Together is a Korean variety show
KXLA F 21:35–22:20 Couple Clinic - Love & War is a Korean drama subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA M–F 22:20–22:30 a Korean news magazine show??? (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA Sa 19:00–19:50 JNN News Special is a Japanese news magazine show (now listed as part of a sponsored variety slot)
KXLA Sa 19:50–20:00 Kempo TV Education Series is a Japanese educational show (now listed as part of a sponsored variety slot)
KXLA Su 19:00–20:00 Only Son & Three Older Sisters is a Japanese drama series subtitled in English and ending June 27 (now listed as a sponsored variety show)
KXLA Sa,Su 20:00–21:00 The Age of Warriors is a Korean historical drama subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA Sa,Su 21:00–21:10 GAG Concert is presumably a Korean music show (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA Sa,Su 22:10–23:00 Terms of Endearment is a Korean drama series subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)


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KSCI M,Tu The Phoenix is a drama series (now listed as The Tea Lady, which ended); Sandy's page and TMS says it starts at 21:50, KSCI's page says it starts at 22:00—which is right?
KSCI W,Th I Want to Get Married is a drama series (now listed as Match Made in Heaven, which ended); same uncertainty about time slot
KSCI F Sunday, Sunday Night is a variety show (now listed as Korean Miniseries Drama); same uncertainty about time slot
KSCI M–F 22:50–23:30 uncertainty about time slot


it should start at 21:50 for both, definitely not 22:00

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KXLA M–F 20:25–21:00 is a Korean drama series subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



should be One Million Roses

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KXLA M–F 20:00–20:25 ??? I have no idea what airs here (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



should be KTE news

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KXLA W,Th 21:35–22:20 The Kiss of April is a Korean drama subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block); Sandy lists 21:30–22:20



21:35 is about right since I'm making allowances in case sometimes it does start a bit earlier than 21:35, however, this drama is NOT subtitled

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KXLA Sa,Su 21:00–21:10 ??? I have no idea what airs here (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



should be GAG Concert

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KXLA Sa,Su 20:00–21:00 The Age of Warriors is a Korean historical drama (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)

KXLA Sa,Su 22:10–23:00 Terms of Endearment is a Korean drama series (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



note that these 2 have english subs





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this should be listed:

KXLA, Th 22:20-23:00 Happy Together (korean entertainment program)

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KXLA, Th 22:20-23:00 Happy Together (korean entertainment program)

TMS's “Entertainment” genre is for programs about the entertainment industry (Ebert & Roeper, E! True Hollywood Story, …). Would you call this a variety show instead?

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KXLA, Th 22:20-23:00 Happy Together (korean entertainment program)

TMS's “Entertainment” genre is for programs about the entertainment industry (Ebert & Roeper, E! True Hollywood Story, …). Would you call this a variety show instead?



you're right, it's more of a variety show


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Regarding the UTB Dramas on Sunday nights at 9:00 P.M, Time Warner seems to lag when it comes to the titles. IE - For the majority of the time of Koibumi, Younger Man was listed, and now for this new drama, Koibumi is listed. They have to fix that, so submit that in too, Ccwf.
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Note: I plan on sending in these corrections Sunday or Monday, so try to get in any other corrections by Sunday.

[Yes, I know I (or someone) has a lot of work to do to update the corrections for the recent changes.]

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KSCI M–F noon–13:30 My Jealous Wife, aka Jealousy in a Thousand Years of Romantic Love, aka Qian Gu Feng Liu Yi Tan Cu (now just listed as Mandarin Drama)



this should now be: Love of the Aegean Sea

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KXLA M–F 20:25–21:00 One Million Roses is a Korean drama series subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



should now be: My Precious Child (eng subbed)

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KSCI M–F 20:30–21:00 Cute Women is a drama series (now bizarrely listed as a bunch of public affairs specials)



should now be: King's Flower Fairy (starting July 19)

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KSCI Sa 22:30–23:30 Wonderful Life is a drama series in Japanese (now listed in the wrong time slot with this time slot now listed as containing a generic drama series plus paid programming)



should now be: Proof of the Man (starting July 24th)

KSCI Sa 20:00-21:00 Dotch Cooking Show (eng subbed)
 
KSCI Su 19:30-20:30 Water Boys 2 (starting July 25th)

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KXLA Su 19:00–20:00 Only Son & Three Older Sisters is a Japanese drama series subtitled in English and ending June 27 (now listed as a sponsored variety show)



should now be Salaryman Kintaro 4 (eng subbed)

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KXLA M,Tu 21:35–22:20 Sweet Love, aka many other titles is a Korean drama subtitled in English (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)
KXLA W,Th 21:35–22:20 The Kiss of April is a Korean drama (now part of a big, generic Korean Talk and Entertainment block)



timeslot has changed to 21:45-22:25 (for both dramas)
 



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